Dr Colin Ross Lecture; Military Mind Control Research

CKLN-FM Mind Control Series -- Part 1

The CIA and Military Mind Control Research:
Building the Manchurian Candidate

CKLN-FM 88.1 Toronto - International Connection Mar 16, 23, 30, 1997

Wayne Morris:

Good morning, welcome to International Connection. It's a very special show this morning. This is the beginning of a journey we are about to take on this programme. A journey into a gruesome world of mind control experiments by government-financed doctors in Canada and the United States. Inhuman experiments performed on humans, children for the most part. For the next 8 months on the show we will be airing interviews with survivors of mind control experiments and ritual abuse, lectures and interviews with therapists, researchers, and writers who are dealing with the legacy of mind control.

Specifically we'll be looking at the documented history of U.S. CIA and military mind control experimental programs. Also the struggles of survivors to get compensation from the CIA and the Canadian government in particular govt-funded mind control experiments at McGill University under Dr. Ewen Cameron. We'll be hearing the accounts of survivors of horrific experiments involving electroshock, drugs, brain implants, sensory deprivation, psychic driving, forced sleep, ritual and sexual abuse. We'll also be discussing the military and intelligence uses of mind control including theft, assassination, and sexual blackmail using child victims. We'll be talking about the uses of creating MPD in people for mind control programming and its links to the MP effects of ritual abuse. We'll be discussing with therapists to talk about the effects of severe trauma, sexual abuse, recovered memories and the 'False Memory Syndrome'

Many people listening may be aware of Dr. Cameron's projects at the Allan Memorial Institute in Montreal but this wasn't the only location. The experimental projects were carried out all across Canada and of course in the United States.

The first segment of this radio series Mind Control in Canada features a lecture by Dr. Colin Ross to colleagues about the history of the U.S. CIA and military mind control programs. Dr. Ross is a Canadian psychiatrist specializing in MPD currently practicing in Texas. He has researched this subject for many years and is currently writing a book about mind control. He has obtained thousands of CIA documents through the Freedom of Information Act and through these documents, Dr. Ross is able to prove the US government has been using MPD and Manchurian Candidates operationally since WWII.. and it doesn't stop there.

This lecture is part one of three one-hour segments to kick off this radio series Mind Control in Canada on 88.1 CKLN.

And now Dr. Colin Ross:

[Dr. Colin Ross, M.D.
The CIA and Military Mind Control Research: Building the Manchurian Candidate
Lecture given at 9th Annual Western Clinical Conference on Trauma and Dissociation, April 18, 1996, Orange County, California]

I'm very very happy that you are all here. This is the first time that I have talked on this stuff in public, and the problem was that Kevin made a little mistake on the schedule. He didn't get the title quite right. This is actually a performance art piece. It's entitled: "Psychiatrist Trying to Stay Calm and Casual". But before we go any further, by the way, there are a couple of messages here for people who are supposed to call home: William C. Hollinger (if he's here) - he's supposed to call his lab in Pittsburgh. L. Wilson Green, you're supposed to call your lab at Edgeware Arsenal. And Ewen Cameron, there's a message to call Leonard in Montreal. So why is it I am talking about this, and what is it I am trying to say here?

Well, one explanation is no one has the faintest idea what I am talking about and I am here talking about it because I am a little wacky. Hopefully by the end of the day, that won't be the conclusion. However, that is a conclusion that unhappily is in print in various esteemed locations such as the British Journal of Psychiatry, Esquire Magazine, and Richard's Ofshe's book, and a CBC film.

It's been a very curious experience to go through this little journey that Kevin just alluded to, which is the same journey that we have all gone through if we have heard this from patients. It's starts off back in the remote past, 1981-85, when I am a psychiatric resident. I mentioned yesterday that in four years of medical school and four years of residency, I have had more multiple choice questions on Lesch-Nyhan Syndrome, which just to remind you, as you all know, is an inherited deficiency of enzyme hypoxanthine-guanine phosphoribosltransferase-I had more questions on that syndrome in my four years of medical school and four years of psychiatric residency than on childhood sexual abuse, and more teaching.

So then somewhere in the course of the residency I get up to speed on dissociative disorders and connect them to childhood abuse and read up on the literature and get a little bit grounded, and the avalanche of MPD cases starts for me in late 1985 into 1986, and I think I have kind of (a little bit) got what's going on and some person comes in and starts telling me about their father was killed by the Mafia and they were taken to a child prostitution brothel and then they were involved in satanic ritual stuff.

So I go "Gee", no books, no literature, nobody ever heard of it, nobody talks about it, totally in outer space, no idea what to do, which way to turn. I go to the Eastern Regional Conference, go to Chicago, find out a little bit, start getting a little bit grounded and the first couple of cases, my personal reaction is, "Gawh!" - this sure sounds real, could be real, it's pretty scary. Wonder if I should let my kids out on Halloween or not. And then the sort of basic experience is whatever percent of SRA is actually real, it is clear that we got into some sort of hysteria wave in society in general, and in the profession, and a lot of people went a bridge or two too far on their journey, and we had to reign ourselves back in.

So the time course now is, in my training, there is no sexual abuse at all. It doesn't exist. It's not relevant because it doesn't exist. Then it goes to, well, it exists, but it's not really all that relevant and then there's these sorts of outlaw gadfly sort of people who are into dissociative disorders who aren't accepted by the mainstream. Then the dissociative disorders people from a foundation of reality that was hidden go off into outer space on this-it wasn't alien abductions, but it was still outer space-on this ritual abuse stuff. Then they sort of come back to earth and get a little bit grounded-and the next thing you know it's all this government experiments, mind control stuff. So if you follow the pattern, what should be the case is just another hysteria wave. And the more you look at it, the more it will just dissolve, and we will all settle down and forget about it.

Well the pattern didn't work. Because when I systematically started looking into CIA military mind control, the more I looked, the more solid reality there was there. And as you will see as we go through these slides, and through this talk, it's a completely different deal from SRA. Somewhere out there in the justice system, there may actually be objective evidence where somebody has actually busted a SRA cult. If there is, that information is not generally publicly available to us. It is a fact that we have not nailed down human ritual sacrifice cults in North America if they exist. So it's all conjecture.

Today I will prove to you, completely locked down, documented, proven, beyond dispute discussion that intelligence agencies have been creating Manchurian candidates and MPD for operational use since the Second World War. This is not a conspiracy theory. This is a fact.

Now that's very amazing because if you took an opinion poll of all the psychiatrists in the American Psychiatric Association today-or you took the same poll five years ago -- 99.999% ... over 99% of the psychiatrists would say "it's fiction, we know the movie is fiction, Frank Sinatra did a good job, but there's just no way, it's absolutely impossible." (There might be two outlaw psychiatrists in the whole group who would say that it's possible that Manchurian candidates are real.) This is a very, very strange phenomena that actually in 1996 this is a completely documented fact-it's a very strange sociological little development in the field of psychiatry. How could that be possible? Well I'm going to try and explain how it's possible. So that's "what" I am going to talk about. Also I am going to talk about not just creating Manchurian candidates, but the whole network of mind control doctors that is involved in this and supports this-this kind of old boys' network that maintains all of this. And you will see a whole bunch of slides with godzillian interconnections that I will go into in detail. And every one of those steps - unless I otherwise specify - is completely documented. Absolutely objective in full.

So there is something real peculiar about the whole story. It's a very strange story. It tells us that there is something going on in our culture and in the mental health field that is hidden and secret. This is another kind of incest secret in the field of psychiatry that all of these people who have been running psychiatry in the latter half of the 20th century are either directly or loosely connected to a whole huge universe of covert hidden secretly funded mind control research, and as I emphasized, that's a fact.

Now why should we be talking about that at this conference? Well it's obvious. If in fact experimental MPD has been created and has been tight and hard and real enough for operational use by intelligence agencies for the last 50 years, then it is something of interest to the dissociative disorders field.

This is profound evidence in favour of the iatrogenic pathway to DID that I talked about this morning. When I combine the expert witness experience that I have had at clinically created iatrogenic DID using the techniques of destructive psychotherapy cults in the course of persuasion, as I described this morning-when I take that expert witness evidence and see those cases created out of a base of no pre-existing DID and then I go to this CIA military mind control literature, my only possible conclusion is yes, you can create full tilt DID artificially from ground zero.

Also I have to conclude that you can create any degree of complexity, permutations of false memory that you want. There is absolutely no limit on the quantity, complexity, reality, congruence, plausibility of false memories that you can insert in somebody's mind-wittingly or unwittingly.

So-they didn't tell me that in medical school. This is a little sub paradigm revolution in the DID field. There is a huge wealth of information, experimental information, clinical anecdotal information, and operational street smarts knowledge of DID that's been up and running and full tilt in the mental health field for 50 years now. This did not spring out of nowhere in 1980, and we are missing a ton of experimental research data that's still classified that bears directly on this false memory debate that is going on in our society now. And you will see some of the players in this whole scenario of interesting people. (If we could put the slide projector on)

Every slide that I will show you is in your handout packet, so you don't have to take notes. Anybody who is listening to the tape-there are also a few examples of the documents. If you want that information, you can call me at Charter Hospital at 1-800-255-3312 and we can just mail that to you.

The first point is that there are a lot of documented declassified mind control research programs that are completely objectively proven beyond a shadow of a doubt. I have a lot of this material and some I have on order. This is CIA now. Bluebird and Artichoke were two programs that ran from 1951-53 and I will read you some stuff from Artichoke in a minute. These were then rolled over into MKULTRA which ran from 1953 to 1963 and then there are 149 sub-projects that you will see a listing of in a second. That was then administratively rolled over into MKSEARCH which ran until 1973. Contiguously with that, and in collaboration with Edgeware Arsenal, MKNAOMI which involved MKULTRA, ARTICHOKE and BLUEBIRD type research done abroad and nationally ran from 1953 to 1970. This involves all kinds of hallucinogens, hypnosis and so on that I will go into in detail. STARGATE just recently declassified E.S.P., paranormal, remote viewing military uses of telekinesis type research that was done from an uncertain start date up until 1984. Bill Gates, former Director of the CIA on ABC's Dateline in December of 1995 said that it ran up until 1984. They had one of the academic contractors to STARGATE on the show and they had the man whose job was CIA oversight of military experimentation under STARGATE. So this really went on, they really used psychics operationally and they believed in it enough to keep spending millions of dollars on it for several decades probably. Now when you read all the Senate materials from the 1970's and you read all the existing literature, the claim of the intelligence community was that all this mind control research was stopped in 1973 due to Senate oversight and so on. One of the MKULTRA sub-projects is on the paranormal, esp and using esp for covert operations purposes. That element of MKULTRA didn't stop in 1973. We now know from the CIA itself that it ran on until 1984. So we know for a fact that at least that element of this mind control research program that was said to have stopped in 1973, continued to 1984. My position is that it is simply implausible that this stuff isn't ongoing up to the present.

You can see from this list (Projects Chatter, Often, Derbyhat, Third Chance, Chickwit, MKDelta and QK Hilltop) that there was a large number of different programs in the 1950's, 60's and 70's ... all of which have a just a little tidbit of information about them. Most of the actual documents and so on, nobody has either reviewed or obtained through the Freedom of Information Act yet. So this is a huge amount of, as yet still classified information.

Now we are going to give you a smattering run-through of the institutions that were sites for MKULTRA research. In MKULTRA there were 149 different sub-projects and these were not in obscure little corners of the world. This is the American Psychological Association, this is the Butler Hospital Health Centre which is part of Harvard, Children's International Summer Village ... this is a charming place ... this is a project involving a study of children at an international summer camp aged 11 and the study of how children who don't share a common language communicate and in the CIA report it states that the investigator was unwitting of the fact that it was CIA funding and the purpose of the CIA in these 11 year olds was that they might possibly identify promising young foreign nationals for future use by the Agency. Columbia University, Cornell, Denver, Emory, Florida, George Washington, Harvard.This will give you a feel for who is involved in this stuff. Houston, Illinois, Indiana Universities, Johns Hopkins, Eli Lilly was the big supplier of LSD to the CIA. Those of you who can remember the sixties might remember the "House of the Rising Sun" by the British rock group, The Animals. They had a song called "The Girl Named Sandoz". Sandoz was the employer of Hoffman who discovered LSD in the forties, and Sandoz was the original supplier of LSD to the CIA and the military in the 1950's and they wanted a secure American supplier so they contracted with Eli Lilly to become the developer. University of Minnesota, New Jersey Reformatory, Bordentown in Tennessee ... Ohio, University of Pennsylvania, Penn State, Princeton, Stanford, a couple of universities in Texas, Wisconsin, the Bureau of Narcotics, a prison, a narcotics farm. So these contracts ... McGill, NIH, NIMH, National Philosophical Society ... everything and everybody gets in on the act a little. NRC. So these were all of the major players in North American psychiatry and psychology who were receiving this kind of funding.

Office of Naval Research ... which you are going to see multiple times on the slides. Worcester Foundation for Experimental Biology ... all kinds of different agencies and groups. MKSEARCH was the one that MKULTRA was rolled into. It ran from 1963 to 1973. Again Bureau of Narcotics, New Jersey Neuropsychiatric which is also an MKULTRA site which I will talk about in more detail. Vacaville State Prison which you are going to hear a whole bunch about.

Now BLUEBIRD and ARTICHOKE which were 1951-53 ... institutions there include the Bureau of Narcotics, Cornell, Eli Lilly again, NIH, Public Health Service, University of Minnesota ... you get the idea. Now what about the proven identity of some of the actual contractors? The terminology here is ... we've got the contractor and we've got the sub-project number and I have most of the sub- contract files. Security status ... TS means top secret cleared, UW means unwitting because this money was usually put through a funding front and you will see a slide showing how that was all organized so a person could get money through a CIA funding front and genuinely not know it was CIA money. They would just think it was another Foundation. Most of the people you haven't heard of like James Hamilton, Harold Abramson, Carl Pfeiffer, but you will hear more about them later today.

Some of these people might sound a little familiar ... Louis Jolyon West at UCLA, Ewen Cameron who was at McGill, he's been written about a lot, and yes this is Carl Rogers of Rogerian psychotherapy fame. He was actually a spook psychiatrist with top secret clearance who was on the Advisory Board of one of the funding fronts and received funding for psychotherapeutic research on schizophrenia. It's a very funny thing that Mr. Friendly Carl was in the network. Martin Orne, you will hear a lot about him. These people were at University of Oklahoma. They were doing research on street gangs. Four of the MKULTRA sub-projects were on children and all of the investigators for those were UW unwitting.

Martin Orne's top secret clearance status. Maitland Baldwin who did stuff on monkey brains. George White was a CIA career officer who constructed safe houses in San Francisco and New York where people were recruited in off the streets to have sex with prostitutes and were given LSD and other drugs without their knowing it. The rationale for this was that they were attempting to study reaction of unwitting subjects in civilian settings to mind control drugs. An alternative hypothesis to this was that they were actually testing Manchurian candidate prostitute performance.

Harold Wolff was at Cornell. Raymond Prince I have corresponded with. He was UW unwitting. He did research among the Aruba in Nigeria on their folk healing practices. R. Gordon Watson--I was a little bit unhappy to see him on the list, but relieved to see he was unwitting because I read a book of his called "SOMA: Divine Mushrooms of Immortality" ... a very interesting book on Fly Agrate which is the little red toadstool with the white flakes on it. The use of that by circumpolar shamans has a very interesting history. John Mulholland is actually a magician. When you go through these documents, all these names are whited out. You have to piece it together from here and there. It's a great big story trying to track it all down. Except they goofed it up. John Mulholland was not whited out once. When you get a file on one of these sub-projects, there is usually a page in there that has standardized wording about no individuals associated with this project are witting or so and so whose name is whited out has top secret clearance and is aware of agency involvement.

There's somebody you have probably heard of. His name is B.F. Skinner. I am still doing some of the archival research to find out what his sub-project number is, and what his security status is but I would suspect it will turn out to be top secret. Just before we get to that slide, I am going to read you some material, some of which is in your handout. As you can see, these slides are going to show you an awful lot of connections between an awful lot of different things here. You get the gist ... there were a lot of different sub-projects, a lot of different investigators all over mainstream academia.

Now I am going to jump to proving to you that MPD has been created by the CIA and the military since WWII. The first stop off point is at the back of your series of handouts there. It's a publication called "Science Digest, April 1971", the author is G.H. Estabrooks. The article is called "Hypnosis Comes of Age". When you go to page 48, I am going to read this out loud for the benefit of people listening to this on tape. He's now writing, in 1971, and says the following:

"One of the most fascinating but dangerous applications of hypnosis is its use in military intelligence. This is a field with which I am familiar through formulating guidelines for the techniques used by the United States in two world wars."
(Ross: For those of you who are not history buffs, that means at least back to 1914.)

"Communication in war is always a headache. Codes can be broken. A professional spy may or may not stay bought. Your own man may have unquestionable loyalty but his judgment is always open to question. The "hypnotic courier" on the other hand, provides a unique solution.

I was involved in preparing many subjects for this work during World War II. One successful case involved an Army Service Corps Captain whom we'll call George Smith. Captain Smith had undergone months of training. He was an excellent subject but did not realize it. I had removed from him, by post-hypnotic suggestion, all recollection of ever having been hypnotized.

First I had the Service Corps call the captain to Washington and tell him they needed a report on the mechanical equipment of Division X headquartered in Tokyo. Smith was ordered to leave by jet next morning, pick up the report and return at once. These orders were given him in the waking state. Consciously, that was all he knew, and it was the story he gave his wife and friends. Then I put him under deep hypnosis, and gave him-orally-a vital message to be delivered directly on his arrival in Japan to a certain colonel-let's say his name was Brown-of military intelligence. Outside of myself, Colonel Brown was the only person who could hypnotize Captain Smith. This is "locking".

(Ross: I have had patients talk to me about "locking".)

I performed it by saying to the hypnotized Captain: 'Until further orders from me, only Colonel Brown and I can hypnotize you. We will use a signal phrase 'the moon is clear'. Whenever you hear this phrase from Brown or myself you will pass instantly into deep hypnosis.'

When Captain Smith re-awakened, he had no conscious memory of what happened in trance. All that he was aware of was that he must head for Tokyo to pick up a division report. On arrival there, Smith reported to Brown, who hypnotized him with the signal phrase. Under hypnosis, Smith delivered my message and received one to bring back. Awakened, he was given the division report and returned home by jet.
There I hypnotized him once more with the signal phrase, and he spieled off Brown's answer that had been dutifully tucked away in his unconscious mind.

The system is virtually foolproof. As exemplified by this case, the information literally was "locked" in Smith's unconscious for retrieval by the only two people who knew the combination. The subject had no conscious memory of what happened, so couldn't spill the beans. No one else could hypnotize him even if they might know the signal phrase. Not all applications of hypnotism to military intelligence are as tidy as that. Perhaps you have read 'The Three Faces of Eve'.

(Ross: Now here he makes a scholarly mistake because he's talking about Morton Prince's "The Dissociation of a Personality" but he refers to the book "The Three Faces of Eve".)

The book was based on a case reported in 1905 by Dr. Morton Prince of Massachusetts General Hospital and Harvard. He startled everyone in the field by announcing that he had cured a woman named Beauchamp of a split personality problem. Using post-hypnotic suggestion to submerge an incompatible, childlike facet of the patient, he'd been able to make two other sides of Mrs. Beauchamp compatible, and lump them together in a single cohesive personality.

Clinical hypnotists throughout the world jumped on the multiple personality bandwagon as a fascinating frontier. By the 1920's, not only had they learned to apply post-hypnotic suggestion to deal with this weird problem, but also had learned how to split certain complex individuals (Ross: a very interesting phrase) into multiple personalities like Jeckyll-Hydes.

The potential for military intelligence has been nightmarish. During World War II, I worked this technique with a vulnerable Marine lieutenant I'll call Jones. Under the watchful eye of Marine Intelligence, I split her personality into Jones A and Jones B. Jones A, once a "normal" working Marine, became entirely different. He talked communist doctrine and meant it. He was welcomed enthusiastically by communist cells, was deliberately given a dishonorable discharge by the Corps, which was in on the plot, (Ross: that's called "sheep-dipping", that's the technical term for that) and became a card-carrying party member.

The joker was Jones B, the second personality, formerly apparent in the conscious Marine. Under hypnosis, this Jones had been carefully coached by suggestion. Jones B was the deeper personality, knew all the thoughts of Jones A, was a loyal American and was "imprinted" to say nothing during conscious phases. All I had to do was hypnotize the whole man, get in touch with Jones B, the loyal American, and I had a pipeline straight into the Communist camp. It worked beautifully for months with this subject, but the technique backfired. While there was no way for an enemy to expose Jones' dual personality, they suspected it, and played the same trick on us later.

Now the only question becomes 'is Estabrooks some sort of kook'? Maybe he didn't really do this, maybe he's grandiose, or delusional, or just bullshitting, or whatever. So let's take a look at who G.H. Estabrooks is. How are we going to do that? We are going to talk to a JFK assassination researcher who tells us that Estabrooks' personal papers are all at Colgate College in Hamilton in Upper State New York-that there's a whole bunch of boxfulls of all his personal papers, his correspondence, his files, and so on. So what we will do is send our secretary up there for five days to go through those 17 boxes which are un-indexed, un-researched and unpublished in any form and then we will request a bunch of that material to be photocopied and we will bring it back to our office in Richardson, Texas -- we will look at it, and then we will talk about it in Orange County, California later on.

What we find is G.H. Estabrooks was born in Newfoundland in Canada-so he is already suspect because he is Canadian. He is not really too dumb, he's a Rhodes Scholar. He ends up studying, I am pretty sure, under Gardner Murphy at Harvard, takes a Ph.D. and spends really his entire adult professional career at this obscure Colgate College in Upper State New York. So is he just an isolated kook, or is he connected in any way? Well as I am going through all this military mind control research in the library, I am aware that Martin Orne, who we will get to in a while, is one of the people I want to focus in on. And I notice in one of Martin Orne's papers that he has referenced G.H. Estabrooks' 1942 textbook, which I have read, where he describes creating Manchurian candidates for the military, so I know that Martin Orne is aware of G.H. Estabrooks' claim to have created MPD. Can I establish any better connection than that? Well lo and behold I find that G.H. Estabrooks edited a book to which Martin Orne contributed a chapter. So now, Martin Orne is totally connected into the whole picture as you will see later, but if you go to a couple of pages ahead of that material which I just read, you will see a letter from G.H. Estabrooks dated August 22, 1961:

"Dear Martin, I am sending to thee a special delivery, one halo - pure gold, one pair of wings which you can try on for size, and a credit card for use in the hereafter. Your article is, of course, excellent. Upon receipt of your letter, I immediately called Mittendorff, and he informed me before I could even broach the subject that they would of course grant your request for reprints. Some day I am going to have myself examined and find out why I do not consider these matters before I embarrass my friends.

By the way, I will be at the APA meetings on Friday and Saturday, September 1st and 2nd, then I will have to whip back here and head south. If at all possible, I will be up at the Baltimore. If you and Ron (which is Ron Shore?) are anywhere in the vicinity, let us sit down and yack at each other. I am not overlooking the fact that our meeting at Cambridge with yourself and Ron sort of crystallized an idea in my mind.

I had a wonderful month's vacation in Canada - Toronto, Ottawa, Quebec City, Murray Basin(?)sp, St. John, N.B., and home - and we particularly liked the French country. My wife's native language is French, although she speaks Italian, English and German as well. I find that with her along, the red carpet is literally rolled out and we see corners of the back country where they would set the dogs on me if I happened to turn up alone.

Thank you tremendously. Hope to see you at the APA. My best regards to Ron."

So it seems these guys knew each other.

Now if you turn over to the next page, Colgate University Symposium on Hypnosis, April 1 and 2, 1960 in Hamilton, New York, opening address by G.H. Estabrooks, Chairman. The papers are E. R. Hilgard, author of the NeoDissociation Book which is a foundation of the entire field here, member of the DSM IV Dissociative Disorders Committee, Ron Shore, frequent co-author with Martin Orne, Gorton (I don't know), C.M.R. Fisher, I have seen his name going through different stuff, Wolberg, I have seen his name around, the behavioural guy I think, Martin Orne, G.H. Estabrooks, Oh who's that guy? Oh, Milton Erickson? Yeah, I've heard of him.

So ... this G.H. Estabrooks is not just some isolated kook. He is a pretty connected in, well-known guy and all the luminaries in hypnosis in this part of the 20th century know him personally, are corresponding with him on a friendly basis and are coming to workshops he put on and publishing books he has edited. So much for the isolated kook theory. Well, maybe he was just kind of bragging a bit, and he wasn't really connected to the military. Well. Bad news. A couple of pages back, you see on stationery of the War Department, Office of the Secretary, Washington, D.C., dated February 20, 1942 the name of George H. Estabrooks, Nature of Action, Accepted Appointment. Expert Consultant to the Secretary of War without other compensation with the payment of actual transportation expenses and not to exceed $10 per diem in lieu of subsistence and other expenses. So he definitely had a Military Intelligence appointment in the Second World War.

Turn over the next page. Now we've got Navy Department, Naval Research Laboratory, Washington, D.C. From the Director of Naval Research Laboratory to Professor G.H. Estabrooks via Inspector of Naval Materials, Syracuse, New York. Subject: Information on Military Uses of Hypnosis; Request for: enclosed three copies of receipt for classified matter and return addressed envelope. "The Naval Research Laboratory has received a request for information regarding the possible military uses of hypnosis. This request comes from a Naval Officer who is primarily interested in hypnosis as a possible facilitator of training, but also wishes to know about any other uses which may have been tested. Members of the Psychology Branch of this Laboratory have discussed the matter informally with several psychologists versed in hypnosis, including Dr. Robert White of Harvard University. (Ross: which is where Martin Orne did his residency.)

Dr. White thought that you had done some experimental work on a person during the war and requested that the Naval Research Laboratory communicate with you. If you have done any work along this line, would you please let us know the purpose and results of your investigations. We have been unable to find any mention of such a project in the Washington files of the Armed Services, and so we must trouble you directly for information. Thank you for your consideration at this enquiry." So we know that we've got very secret documents which are not readily available to the usual classified Military personnel looking through their own filing system. So we know he's not an isolated kook. We know he had a Military appointment. We know he's connected in with all the major hypnotists and we know that he's claiming from 1943 through 1971 to have created Manchurian candidates successfully for operational use during WWII.

Is there any other correspondence that might bear on the reality of his claims? Well, there's a whole bunch of correspondence back and forth spanning the 1930's to the 1960's (that is, spanning four decades) between him and some guy called J. Edgar Hoover. So you'll see on Federal Bureau of Investigation stationery, July 12, 1939: "Dear Dr. Estabrooks: Permit me to acknowledge receipt of your letters of June 19th and 27th and July 6th, 1939. I read with great interest the hypothesis which you put forward concerning the sinking of submarines. I realize of course (Ross: and this was the Military use of hypnosis scheme for sinking submarines) that you are only suggesting things that could conceivably happen upon the basis of your experiments and the experiments of others and you are not suggesting that such a situation actually did occur in any of the recent submarine disasters."

1962: "Dear Dr. Estabrooks: Your letter of February 27th with enclosures has been received, and it was good of you to advise me of the Symposium you have scheduled. I appreciate your inviting us to participate; however the pressure of official business will not permit me to designate a representative to attend." Now, in between those two letters, there is massive correspondence back and forth between J. Edgar Hoover and Estabrooks. There are visits of FBI personnel to Estabrooks. There are many Military and FBI psychological warfare personnel attending various workshops and symposia of Estabrooks, and there is overt discussion of offensive uses of hypnosis in clandestine operations. So, from this, I conclude that probably G.H. Estabrooks actually did create MPD in World War II and that an awful lot of people knew about it. Well maybe it was just G.H. Estabrooks and that was the end of the story.

We have to have some other body of evidence that indicates that this continued beyond World War II. And this is material that is not in your packet, that's from Operation Artichoke and Bluebird, CIA Mind Control research from 1951-53. I am going to read you some Artichoke and Bluebird documents that were obtained through the Freedom of Information Act. A lot of stuff is whited out, so I will just say blank whenever it is necessary to do so.

To the Files. On 6th April, 1954, Tuesday, SI&H (Ross: I haven't figured out what SI is, H is hypnosis) Experimentation and Research was carried on in Building 13 with the following subjects present: Mrs. __ , in addition to Misses ______. ______ attended in a consultant capacity. (Ross: one of these Misses was age 19 according to the document). The session opened with slow induction for all hands, and then a subsequent induction for Miss ____ to enable her to reconstruct a strange dream she had had the previous week. This was successful, although in the wake state she could remember no details. The major experiment of this evening was then conducted as follows.

Miss ____ was taken to Room 23 under full hypnosis and she was instructed by the writer that she would find a secret document in or on Mr. X at desk in his room. She was told that she was to conceal this document next to her person and then she was to return to Room 21, Operations Room, pour herself a drink of water which she would find on a bookcase, and then stretch out on the sofa, face down and go into a deep sleep. She was instructed she would not awaken under any circumstances. She was told she would only awaken if somebody whispered to her a specific code word and would recall nothing except sleeping on the couch.

Miss ____ performed the entire test in exact as detail outlined above and had no subsequent memory whatsoever of any of this activity. During the experiment Miss ____ was taken to the same room and she was told that a person whom she had never seen had taken a secret document from the Agency. She was told that this person or suspected person had been given a drug and was unconscious on the sofa in Room 21. She was told she was to enter the room and find the document which would probably be on the person on the sofa. She was given specific instructions that she must locate the document. She was told that if she found the document, she was to conceal it on her person and return to Room 23, sit in the chair, and go at once into a deep sleep. She was further told that she would have no memory other than falling asleep.

Miss ____ complied in specific detail and immediately discovered the document in ____'s sweater sleeve. Miss ____ concealed the document on her person, returned to Room 23 and at once went into a deep sleep. Subsequently she was brought back into the Operations Room and she and _____ were awakened. The experiment was carried off successfully, particularly by _______ with entire amnesia of the work, and cannot even recall it under hypnosis. ____ however was able to remember a certain part, though some of her details seemed vague."

Here's another separate Artichoke document. "3. Agents might be given cover stories under hypnosis and not only learn them faultlessly, but believe them. Every detail could be made to sink in. The conviction and apparent sincerity with which an individual will defend a false identity given as post-hypnotic suggestion is almost unbelievable. One's memory for detail under such conditions appears to be boundless.

Analogous Case #3. A CIA Security Office employee was hypnotized and given a false identity. She defended it hotly, denying her true name and rationalizing with conviction the possession of identity cards made out to her real self. Later, having had the false identity erased by suggestion, she was asked if she had ever heard of the name she had been defending as her own five minutes before. She thought and shook her head and said, 'That's a pseudo if I ever heard one.' Apparently she had a true amnesia for the entire episode."

"4. Hypnosis would make the recruitment and handling of high level political action agents, in particular under ideal control. Convictions could be reinforced, political courses suggested, appointments influenced, and with a really good subject only the imagination and skill of the handling operator and the inherent limitations of hypnosis as a technique would limit the possibilities. Double agents could be both discovered and used with a much higher degree of assurance if hypnotic control sufficient to permit regression were operative. They could be given suggestions which would have the force of true compulsions to tell if approach was made, targets, briefing, true identity, etc. There is also the possibility that such persons could be used under control much stronger than any we now possess." So that's experimental use. It's clearly creation of Manchurian candidates, there is no question whatsoever. This is now in operational use in the United States.

This is not Manchurian candidates, but it's the use of sodium amytal and hypnosis for the creation of amnesia barriers and deliberate insertion of false memories. "To Director of Security Via Deputy Director of Security Via Chief Security Research Staff from _____. Subject: Report of Artichoke Operations 20-23 January 1955. Between Thursday 20 January and Sunday 23 January 1955, the Security Office Artichoke Team conducted a special operations _____. In the opinion of Team Members, in this case Officers of the _____, the Artichoke operation was successful. Details follow. It should be noted at this point that because these operations were the first Artichoke Operations undertaken in the USA, which is a violation of the CIA's Charter, the full names of those participating are omitted from this report and will not be revealed without consent of the Security Office. First names, titles, or pseudonyms will be used throughout this report. In view of the highly sensitive nature of the Artichoke techniques and in view of the fact that this was the first Artichoke operation carried out in the USA, the operation was conducted _______.

This Safe House is far removed from surrounding neighbours, it is a large tract of land, and is thoroughly isolated. A limited, and security-cleared household staff maintain functions of the House and ____ by unwitting ______ Actual Artichoke operations as usual were carried out in a special area on the second floor of the House, and neither the household staff nor the _____ were permitted in the area during any of the processing. SSD Division furnished one security officer during the entire period of the operation to act as special guard and to handle any unusual situations which arose during the operation. This guard is hereinafter referred to as ____ in this report. For a matter of record, it should be noted that the subject was not a confinement problem, and has been at all times fully cooperative.

Guard detail was not present in connection with the subject, except in a general sense. Technical matters in the case were handled entirely by the TBPSD under the personal supervision of _____. Full tape recordings were made of the entire case, and tapes are to be turned over to the participating Division in the immediate future. It should be noted that during this particular operation, a special device was used in conjunction with the recording. This device, which is easily concealable, worked with remarkable efficiency and at no time during the entire recording was there any break due to technical failure. It should al so be noted that a complex two-way transmitting/receiving unit was again used in this Artichoke operation. Cover for the actual operation followed standard procedure.

The subject was informed in general terms that before being sent for further work it was necessary that certain tests be made on him physically and psychologically as well as his. Hence a complete physical and psychological/psychiatric examination was acquired. Subject readily accepted this medical cover and the Artichoke technique was introduced easily and with the full consent of the subject.

The Case: Prior to the commencement of the actual Artichoke operation, a number of conferences had been held with the various participating personnel involved. All hands had been briefed and procedures had been worked out. A general time schedule was prepared and operating instructions for Artichoke were issued. On the afternoon of the 20th of January the subject and _______ They were met by ________ of the interested Division. Under a covert car subject was taken to the _____, arriving there at approximately 9:30 pm. Prior to this, that is during the day of 20th of January, the technical equipment had been checked out and installed, and _____ had arrived at the covert area at approximately 8 pm for operational purposes. By previous arrangement the _____ was picked up by _____ at approximately 9:30 pm. _____ was brought to the Safe House at 10:50 pm. Shortly after the arrival of ____, a preliminary conference began at approximately 11:10 pm with the subject.

Interrogation lasted until 12:25 am when all except the subject ____ left the Operations Room. Tape recording was cut off at this time. As a result of this interview _____ stated that subject's mental and physical condition was good and noted that the pulse (Ross: which is actually the blood pressure) at 12:25 am was 120/80 (Ross: so these guys are not total wizards).

The doctor also commented he had noticed an increased amount of talk after a drink of whiskey and although there was some nervousness present, it was not excessive. _____ stated he had given subject two grams of anibarbitol to the subject to assist him to sleep and it was later confirmed the subject had taken this prior to going to sleep. (Ross: a half a paragraph is whited out.)

Because of the successful penetration and because of the extremely high quality of information which the subject was obtaining, the case is regarded as most sensitive and important by the participating Division. Since the subject's information had be en checked and cross-checked many times by the Operating Division's Case Officers, and the Division was of the uniform opinion that the subject was fully legitimate and fully cooperating with our efforts; they however desired Artichoke to give added assurance to the subject's story and to help them determine absolute suitability for further use of the subject in his work.

For the record, it should be noted that no polygraph techniques had been applied in this case, since a physical examination by _____ apparently a cleared physician had indicated too much nervousness for successful polygraph testing. Following established patterns using medical cover as explained above, the ____ began a physical and psychological examination at 10 am on the morning of Friday 21 January. This examination continued until l pm when an hour was taken for lunch. At 2 pm _____ again continued the general examination of the subject with _____ being used, as before lunch, as interpreter. This examination lasted until 3 pm when the ____ concluded the first medical session and a portable polygraph was taken in by ____ for the purpose of polygraph testing. (Ross: there's a bunch of blanked out stuff.) On Saturday 22 January 1955 subject had breakfast with ____. At 9:35 am ____ arrived at the Safe House and at 9:45 am ____ arrived. At 10:35 am the subject again, with ____ acting as interpreter, was examined briefly by Dr. ______. At 10:50 am _____ left the operations area and began polygraph testing. This examination lasted until 12:37 pm when it was concluded. (Ross: then it goes on ... I'll skip a little bit.)

Subject was taken into the Special Operations Room with only the ____ present and at 2:36 pm the first intravenous infusion began. Slow injections were continued until 2:46 pm when the ____ signaled that the subject was fully affected by the chemicals and at this time special recording and transmitting equipment was brought into the Operations Room. Also at this time ____ left the room and ____ entered. From this point until approximately 4:15 pm when the interrogations ended, Artichoke techniques were applied. These techniques, which followed a previously agreed-upon plan, were in three stages: (Ross: this is now deliberate implantation of false memories.)
A. A fantasy which ______. Results during this phase were good and subject had no control. Time approximately 15-20 minutes.

B. A fantasy in which _____. Results were again very good. Time approximately 40-45 minutes.

C. Following development of the fantasies as noted above, the subject was more or less directly interrogated by _____, and ____ introduced as _____. Results only fair, although subject had little control. Time approximately 15 minutes.

Immediately following the conclusion of the Artichoke treatments, a general conference was held with all hands present. It was agreed at this time that further Artichoke treatments were unnecessary, that results were as conclusive .. that in view of the subject's importance, additional work with chemicals or with the H technique might possibly antagonize the subject, hence would be unwarranted and unwise.

Following the conclusion of the general discussion all technical apparatus was removed from the premises, and all participating personnel with the exception of _____ left the area after the ____ had checked the subject. On Sunday 23 January between approximately twelve noon and l:30 pm, the _____ returned to the Safe House and again re-examined the physical and mental condition of the subject. At this time the subject reported he had slept fairly well but he had a persistent headache. The _____ pointed out that the headache was a natural consequence of the "examination" and it would gradually disappear. In addition the ____ wrote a prescription which was to be picked up in another name for future use by the subject as a general sedative. At 1:50 pm approximately _____ left the Safe House and the subject was turned over for handling to Case Officers of his participating Division.

CONCLUSIONS: In the opinion of the Artichoke Team the operation was profitable and successful. In this case the subject was aware that he had been given certain types of solutions but as to what he had been given or amounts given, he had no knowledge. Checks were made by ___ and later ____ and apparently indicated that the subject, although not having specific amnesia for the Artichoke treatment, nevertheless was completely confused and his memory was vague and faulty. This vagueness and failure of memory was intensified by the _____ explanation that the subject had been dreaming an opinion which it appeared the subject shared in part."

Ross: So that's obviously operational use of sophisticated mind control amnesia inducing and false memory implanting techniques in the USA in the 1950's by the CIA. It's part of a broad program of mind control research, experimentation and operational use which included the creation of Manchurian Candidates. So this is why I say that I conclude that it's an established fact that the CIA and the military have been creating Manchurian Candidates for operational use since World War II at least into the 1950's, and that it's not plausible denial in my mind to claim that it all stopped in 1973.

How did this whole network get constructed, and how does it work and how is it supported? We are going to take several steps beyond Oliver Stone in terms of level of conspiracy theory, but that's not the point of the talk. The conspiracy theory is interesting to get into, but what I actually believe is that there isn't a conspiracy. I think that the Intelligence Community itself is a polyfragmented entity with Dissociative Identity Disorder, and that there is no single Executive Host Function.

There is no little where everybody has it all planned out and under control. That it works sort of as Neural Network with no Executive Host Function, and that these Old Boys talk to these Old Boys who know this, who don't know this, know that, it's this kind of Network Model and that's what you see on the slide. And all these slides are going to look like this.

I am going to walk you now through all these interconnections in this Network as I said all of which are documented, and tell you about some of the history, and talk about some of the ethical problems that arise. As a matter of general background now, this slide is called "Funding Fronts for CIA Mind Control Research". MKULTRA, you have already seen, was from 1953 to 1963.

The major funding fronts for MKULTRA were the Human Ecology Foundation that Carl Rogers was on the Board of; the Josiah Macey Jr. Foundation, and the Geshickter Fund. Charles Geshickter was one of the MKULTRA contractors himself. So what happened was the CIA would have its budget who would pop money over to the Human Ecology Foundation ... HEF would put out a call for grants and people would then submit applications. So it looks like a normal funding foundation, and some people were unwitting and just thought they were applying for a grant, and other people knew perfectly well there was a front, the technical terms for these kinds of funds was a "Cutout".

HEF, Josiah Macey Jr. and Geshickter were CIA cutouts. This Geshickter Fund was interesting. One of the MKULTRA projects that they funded was the construction of the Gorman Annex at the George Washington University Hospital in Washington, D.C. You have to remember that the military and the CIA are federal bureaucracies. You anticipate the behaviour of federal bureaucracies in general when you are looking into their history and operations.

So what they did was through MKULTRA they funded to Geshickter who then funded out to the contractor money to build the Gorman Annex as an addition to the hospital. Since this was money coming from a private foundation, it generated matching funds from another sector of the federal government. So the CIA got to double its budget by sucking its money out of unwitting civilian areas of the federal purse. What was the Gorman Annex for? It was for mind control experimentation on terminal cancer patients. Three career officers, CIA biochemists, were employed at the Gorman Annex under full cover. This is not completely above board and ethical behaviour. So Carl Rogers who is on the board of the Human Ecology Foundation is himself an MKULTRA contractor and his specific projects have got this MKULTRA grant application ... I've got him on the Board of the HEF, I've got the description of his project that was funded through MKULTRA, and I've got the publication flowing from the project that exactly matches the grant application, and in the published paper, he acknowledges funding from the Human Ecology Foundation. So it's a completely documented closed loop.

Josiah Macey Jr. Foundation. Who was on the Board? An interesting fellow named Daniel X. Friedman. Daniel X. Friedman was the Editor of the Archives of the Journal of Psychiatry from 1970 until his death in 1993. The Archives of the Journal of Psychiatry is the most referenced psychiatric journal in the world, by far. In other words, if you do citation index searches of references of published psychiatry papers, that is it's an indexing of all the published papers in all the psychiatry journals in the world (the number of references to articles published in the Journal of Psychiatry is 7x the number of the next psychiatry journal in the world. So this "the" number one great big place to publish. It is very biomedical reductionist and it's virtually impossible to get a dissociative paper published in there.

So these people, like Daniel Friedman, who are in network, are incredibly influential, powerful, controlling people in terms of the history of psychiatry, what gets funded, what gets reviewed, what gets published, who gets appointments, etc etc etc. It's all part of a very powerful tight structured network. MKULTRA connects itself up to Allen Dulles which connects us back to Human Ecology over to Harold Wolff and back to Allen Dulles. How does that work?

Allen Dulles was the Director of the CIA from 1953 to 1961. He has the longest-running tenure as DCIA-Director of Central Intelligency Agency. In World War II he was employed by the OSS - Offices of Strategic Services - which is the pre-cursor of the CIA which was run by a guy called Wild Bill Donovan. He was stationed in Switzerland and was heavily involved in, obviously since the enemy was the Germans and the allies were the Russians, in the War he was supposed to be working with the Russians against the Germans which he did.

However, when you read the history of the OSS in World War II, in the last years of the War, the Cold War was already being deliberately planned out and set up by the Intelligence Agencies, and it was already apparent to the Intelligence Agencies that things were going to flip - that Germany would become the Allies and Russia would become the enemy. There was an awful lot of jockeying about whether the Germans were going to surrender in North Italy before the Russians got to Yugoslavia - so there were now negotiations with the Germans - because if they agreed to surrender early - before the Russians got there - then there would be such-and-such a payoff which would secure the area for the Allies so they wouldn't be taken over by the Russians.

There was all this jockeying going on, all this intrigue, communications between the OSS and some of Hitler's generals. The arch-enemy spymaster, who Allen Dulles was fighting against was Reinhard Gehlen who was head of German Intelligence in the Eastern Front, which means Russia. At the end of World War II, Allen Dulles recruited Reinhard Gehlen to become the Head of that Division of the CIA's operations against Russia. This is a totally established fact.

Harold Wolff who was the Head of the Human Ecology Foundation, was a neurologist at Cornell. When Allen Dulles' son received a head wound in the Korean War, he was brought back to the USA and treated by Harold Wolff. You start to get a feel for why I call this an Old Boys' Network. Let's come down here to MKULTRA-we're over at hallucinogens. A lot of MKULTRA subprojects had to with funding LSD and other hallucinogens. A person who did a lot of hallucinogen research and published a lot of hallucinogen research was Daniel Friedman. Hallucinogen research also connects us down to Loretta Bender.

Loretta Bender is the much-revered author of "The Bender Gestalt". Now look at these three names: Loretta Bender, Paul Hawk and Ewen Cameron. You will see that each of these names (they are all supposed to connect to the American Journal of Psychiatry obituaries). Ewen Cameron, Paul Hawk and Loretta had their obituaries in the American Journal of Psychiatry. So these are revered people, who are being honoured posthumously by the flagship Journal of the American Psychiatric Association. It's actually Stella Chess who writes the obituary for Loretta Bender, very glowing, what a wonderful contributor to child psychiatry, what a pioneer ... well, she forgot to mention in the obituary - in a publication that I have in my Loretta Bender file that I got from a medical school library - Loretta Bender describes giving 150 mcg per day to children ages 7-11 years for days, weeks, months and in some cases, even years in a row. This would not get through an Ethics Committee. This is discussed at a CIA sponsored symposium on LSD. Paul Hawk, anybody ever hear of a disorder called Borderline Personality Disorder? Hawk and Pollett(sp) in 1949 Psychiatric Quarterly, Pseudo Neurotic Forms of Schizophrenia - these people are on the borderline between neurosis and schizophrenia - we call it pseudoneurotic schizophrenia because they are on the borderline. It's one of the reasons why the word "borderline" caught on.

Well he did hallucinogen research in New York for the military, and it had one unfortunate side effect - he killed Harold Blauer(sp) a tennis pro, in 1953, with an injection of Army mescaline and the family was eventually compensated for that. He's big-time connected into all the hallucinogen research by the military, CIA, and he's at many different CIA-sponsored conferences. Ewen Cameron, former Head of the Quebec Psychiatric Association, the Canadian Psychiatric Association, the American Psychiatric Association, the World Psychiatric Association - in fact, the founder of the World Psychiatric Association - and also one-time President of the Association for Biological Psychiatry. As politically connected a guy as ever existed in the entire field of psychiatry in the 20th Century, with his obituary in the American Journal of Psychiatry, funded through MKULTRA and Human Ecology Foundation, did LSD and other hallucinogen research funded by Canadian military and the CIA and was successfully sued (he had already died) - the CIA settled out of court actually - it wasn't a successful suit technically - with eight of his patients who had been victims of experimentation that was first funded directly by the CIA through the Human Ecology Foundation and then through the Canadian government.

One of his papers, published in the American Journal of Psychiatry is on Psychic Driving, another is on Production of Differential Amnesia in Schizophrenia. I interviewed a woman named Linda McDonald, who is identified in public, this is not a problem with violation of her confidentiality, and I have a release to talk about her and write about her - she was 25 years old when she went to McGill to be treated for a relatively mild post-partum depression. She turned 26 during her hospitalization from March to early September, 1963. During the course of her hospitalization, she received 102 ECT treatments, using the Paige-Russell technique, in which the button is pushed 6x per treatment, instead of 1x. She also received about 80 days of barbiturate and neuroleptic induced sleep. During the course of her hospitalization - now, I have not only her testimony I also have the actual medical record, with all of the nursing notes documenting this and Ewen Cameron's signature in the chart. So this is not rumour or patient distortion this is the actual record. And this is work that has been settled out of court by the CIA.

She comes in a normal, somewhat depressed person, who on my interview I would say she probably had DDNOS before she was admitted - she gets regressed back to incontinent of urine, incontinent of feces, totally disoriented, unable to state her own name, year, where she is, recognize her children, recognize her husband. She gradually comes out of this. At the time of discharge she is sent home to live with her husband and children, resume normal sexual relations with her husband - she doesn't know how to drive a car, read, cook, use a toilet.

Not only does she not know exactly what sex is all about, and she's not exactly sure who her husband is, she doesn't know what the concept of a husband is. She neuropsychologically pulls out of this over months, and several months down the road, she's at the point where a full time homemaker has taught her how to scramble eggs. She was a fully competent housewife and mother before this. When her children go out to play on the street, she is unable to remember 30 seconds later where they are, so she puts a map of the neighbourhood up on the wall and puts pins in the map to keep track of where her kids are playing. Otherwise she goes into a panic and doesn't realize what's going on.

By about a year, she appears to have made a full neuropsychological recovery, and when I interview her several years ago in Vancouver, she appears to be neuropsychologically intact and to be suffering from no active psychiatric disorder. The problem is that she can't remember anything from the time she left the hospital back to birth. So this is CIA and Canadian military research to totally wipe out somebody's memory, which is very successful.

In the published articles on psychic driving and the creation of differential amnesia and schizophrenia, the claim is that if you have somebody who has been delusional for the past five years, and you give them this "regressive ECT" and regress them down to total infantile incontinence and bring them back up, and while you do that, you play a lot of tape loops (looped statements) over and over and over, hundreds and hundreds of times a day ... they will come back to their normal waking state, and they will have specific amnesia for the time during which they have been delusional and for the delusional material and their schizophrenia will then be cured. So this is very careful, deliberate research to produce specific amnesias, and total global amnesia.
We would certainly want to honour that man in the American Journal of Psychiatry.

This is how the funding was set up. Let's look at the network for both the creation of Manchurian Candidates and the denial of the existence of Manchurian Candidates. How's that structured? You would think it might be logical to have a disinformation program in place. Like any complex system, it's sort of arbitrary where you enter the system. Let's enter at MKULTRA which we saw is connected to Bluebird and Artichoke - both of those are connected to the CIA. The CIA is highly connected to the military intelligence structurally (committees, cross-references, cooperation in many of these documented mind control research projects). In the Senate Committee Hearings in the 1970's on MKULTRA, John Gittinger who was the head Ph.D. psychologist in MKULTRA testified that the creation of Manchurian Candidates and the movie, The Manchurian Candidate, which were referred to in his testimony, were just fiction, that's ridiculous, and that had never been done. But we see that MKULTRA, on which he was the lead psychologist, was actually an administrative rollover from Bluebird and Artichoke-we have just read material in which they are explicitly describing clear creation of Manchurian Candidates so it's not possible that he didn't know that.

The options here are either he was so out of it that he didn't realize that was Manchurian Candidates that were being created there, or he was somehow administratively out of the loop and never even looked at the Bluebird and Artichoke documents which is fairly unbelievable, or it is deliberate disinformation. Let's go from the CIA here over to military intelligence over to Estabrooks. We've got Estabrooks actually creating Manchurian Candidates. So that's Manchurian Candidate creation which goes back to Bluebird and Artichoke. We've got that loop already discussed. Let's hop from CIA to Martin Orne. Well, we saw in the original list of MKULTRA consultants that Martin Orne was funded through that, and had top-secret clearance. When you look at Martin Orne's C.V.-he lists in his C.V. numerous military intelligence funding sources (virtually all branches of the military) and he, in his publications, cites funding by Air Force, Army (I am pretty sure), Office of Naval Research, and Human Ecology. A reliable source informed me that he also consulted with the National Security Agency. He basically has consulted with all branches of the military intelligence and civilian intelligence network.

He also has taken the position, since at least 1984 in public, that MPD is almost always an iatrogenic artifact . He has debated this vociferously at the APA annual from 1988 on, and has published a large discussion and commentary on this in the International Journal of Clinical Experimental Hypnosis. His basic position is that MPD is created by the therapist. Now why would Martin Orne think this, and believe this, when he is totally connected into military intelligence?

He is one of the leading experts in hypnosis, he is a friend and correspondent of and has been edited by and he references G.H. Estabrooks who was also one of the leading hypnosis experts at the same time, who was also tightly tied into military intelligence-and Estabrooks knows those other people like Milton Erickson and Hilgaard(sp) who are all totally interconnected by their common work and references.

Well, Martin Orne might believe that all the civilian DID cases are actually iatrogenic DID because that is the universe he has grown up in. He can't step outside his own knowledge of the creation of Manchurian Candidates by the military to conceive of the idea that it might arise naturalistically. So it is basically a project, or lack of intellect. It can't be lack of intellect, because Martin Orne does not lack intellect. The fact that he is too dumb to get it is totally implausible because he's a very bright guy, so that explanation we can rule out.

And the other explanation is deliberate disinformation. There is no way to discriminate between those hypotheses or test them with the available data. So Martin Orne says that DID is iatrogenic. Oh, what's this thing over here? FMSF - False Memory Syndrome Foundation. Well, isn't this funny. Martin Orne is on the Scientific Advisory Board of the False Memory Syndrome Foundation and the False Memory Syndrome Foundation clearly promotes the idea that DID is either almost entirely or 100% entirely an iatrogenic artifact. Where does that take us down to? That takes us down to Manchurian Candidate Denial.

That is done specifically by Richard Ofshe, who is a Scientific Advisory Board member of the False Memory Syndrome Foundation. In his book, "Making Monsters" where he ridicules me as a CIA conspiracy nut who believes that the CIA has been creating MPD (which in fact is a documented fact). Let's skip back to here.

We're at the CIA and we're at MKULTRA, we're missing another connection here. It should go MKULTRA to Joly West, but ... the CIA connects to Joly West because he was funded under MKULTRA to study the psychobiology of dissociation. He will probably go down in history as the only person to kill an elephant at Oklahoma City Zoo with LSD. Well, Joly West is going to show up on a bunch of subsequent slides. What we're looking at is two-dimensional slices of a three- or end dimensional space. So you are going to see Joly West connect out to here, and off the screen, and up and down and around the back of the screen, and so on. One place that he connects if from here to here. Now, where did Joly West start off in his professional career? He started off as a Top Secret cleared guy for the Air Force who interviewed the American pilots who came back from Korea having been captured and brainwashed by the Communist Chinese.

These were people who were real good Americans, who were flying jets who were shot down by the Communist enemy who went to prison as POW's and came back as Communists. Have we ever heard of anything like this before in our lives? This is the creation of a new identity and suppression of the old identity and all its allegiances through mind control coercive persuasion techniques. These American pilots were Manchurian Candidates of a sort, without full amnesia for the previous identity. So they were kind of a DDNOS level Manchurian Candidate as opposed to a full level DID Manchurian Candidate, and Jolyn West was one of the guys who interrogated them, understood them, wrote about them, and wrote about how to arm future military personnel against such interrogation.

Robert Lifton also had Top Secret Clearance from the Air Force to interview these downed American pilots, and there are several other people in the group there, including Margaret Singer, who wrote the book, "Cults in Our Midst" which I talked about as the foundation of the iatrogenic pathway to DID. She had Top Secret Clearance to interview these pilots as well. Margaret Singer publishes with Joly West, and Margaret Singer publishes with Richard Ofshe, who is an expert on coercive mind control and cult persuasion techniques. So that's real funny.

Let's go from Military Intelligence over to False Memory Syndrome Foundation. Who is that guy? Oh ... it says Paul McHugh(sp). Who is Paul McHugh? He is the guy who is Chairman of Psychiatry at Johns Hopkins who says that 100% of cases of DID are iatrogenic and says that all the DID Units should shut down, and he is on the Advisory Board of the FMSF. He connects to DID as iatrogenic, he connects to Johns Hopkins as the Chairman of Psychiatry. He connects over to Walter Reed Hospital because when he was in the military he did research connected to Walter Reed Hospital that is listed in his c.v. which is a major site for military intelligence work, and is directly connected into the mind control network.

Now why do I have Johns Hopkins connected to MKULTRA? Because a prior Chairman of Psychiatry at Johns Hopkins named James Whitehorn was on the Advisory Board of the Human Ecology Foundation. He had Top Secret Clearance and was Witting. The Human Ecology Foundation was actually a funding front for MKULTRA. So one of his immediate predecessors was directly in network with Top Secret Clearance. The research in his c.v. - and I haven't actually got the papers out and read it - that he did in the military doesn't look like mind control research. But then the whole question becomes, what are the hypotheses that account for his behaviour?

Here we have an apparently relatively bright guy who is the Head of the Department at one of the leading medical schools in the world, who just doesn't get it, he thinks that all DID is iatrogenic. Is this because he is not smart enough? Doesn't seem to be a plausible explanation. Well, is it because of some sort of peculiarity of his personal experience in his psychology that we don't know about? Maybe. Maybe it's disinformation. No way to know, no way to prove it one way or another. But this is the network for the creation and the denial of the creation of the Manchurian Candidate. It is a very funny little network. Let's take a look, since we are all into FMSF here, let's take a look at the relations between the Cult Awareness Network and the FMSF Scientific Advisory Board. This is going to start taking us out beyond Oliver Stone. Oliver Stone would say, no this is too much, I am not making a movie about this. There's still hope that we could land at the X-Files though.

CAN means the Cult Awareness Network, CIA means the Central Intelligence Agency, and FMSF means the False Memory Syndrome Foundation. Joly West is on the Boards of CAN and FMSF and is connected to the CIA. Margaret Singer is connected to Joly West and Richard Ofshe. Margaret Singer and Joly West are on the Board of CAN and Richard Ofshe is on the Board of FMSF. Joly West and Margaret Singer worked for Air Force Intelligence talking to those downed American pilots who were actually DDNOS level Manchurian Candidates. Leo Ryan, and we're going to hear a bunch about Jonestown in a minute, is the Congressman who was killed at the airport in Jonestown at the same time as the mass suicide there, which was not actually a suicide. His daughter, Patricia Ryan, is very active in CAN and recently received a Leo Ryan Award, so Leo Ryan connects to Jonestown, Jonestown connects up to the CIA through that loop because CAN is interested in destructive cults and coercive persuasion, and I am going to show you on subsequent slides the connections between Jonestown and the CIA. Jonestown connects down to obviously expertise in cult coercive persuasion techniques. Jim Jones was a big expert. That takes us back up to Joly West, Margaret Singer, Richard Ofshe, Air Force Intelligence, the CIA. So all this interconnects here.

Who is this guy Robert Heath? Well, we are going to see him in a future slide too. My secretary has actually interviewed him, and I might go down and interview him myself at Tulane in New Orleans. He did brain electro implant research for the CIA and he would put brain electrodes in human brains for non-therapeutic purposes, and he would pour in psyllicibin(sp), mescaline, LSD, and other chemicals to see what would go tingle-tingle in the electrodes. And I will tell you more about that. He's funded by the CIA and the military. In one of his papers, he thanks Harold Lief for referring in one of his brain electrode implant research subjects. Harold Lief is on the Advisory Board of the FMSF, and in fact, was personal psychiatrist to the Freyd family. So all these guys know each other. I'm just giving you kind of a sketch of how this thing is constructed. Now let's take a step beyond Oliver Stone.

This is the connections between Jonestown and the CIA. This is based on references, I think they are on the next slide. The centre of the slide refers to talking about the CIA with its interests in mind control. Now according to this book, "Was Jonestown a CIA Medical Experiment?" by Michael Myers, according to him, Jonestown was a CIA medical experiment. It was a mind control research site. So that seems preposterous and impossible to believe. What data and circumstantial evidence add up to that conclusion? Well, we know that Leo Ryan was connected to the CIA. How do we know that? Well, let's take a look over here in our package.

Here we have a letter from the Deputy Director of the CIA dated 18 October 1978. To Honorable Leo Ryan, House of Representatives, Washington, D.C.: "Dear Mr. Ryan: Thank you for your letter of 27 September to Admiral Turner requesting confirmation or denial of the fact that the CIA experiments using prisoners at the California Medical Facility at Vacaville. MK Search Site Principal Investigator, James Hamilton. It is true that CIA sponsored tests involving volunteer inmates was conducted at that facility. The project was completed in 1968. A report setting forth the details of that testing has been released to the authorities at Vacaville and to the public. It is enclosed for your information and review ....... The research was related to learning enhancement using a well known non-hallucinogen, magnesium pemaline (Ross: which is psiler [sp] used for ADD).

Your letter referred to Donald Defreeze known as Cinque and Clifford Jefferson, both of whom were inmates at Vacaville. Insofar as our reports reflect the names of the participants, there is nothing to indicate that either was in any way involved in the project. You may wish to cont act the authorities at Vacaville for further information."

So Leo Ryan was corresponding directly with the CIA about some of its mind control research. He was also the father of pending legislation, by which all CIA covert operations would be subject to direct Congressional oversight from a budgetary point of view. {Ross: I haven't got Charles Manson connected in. You have to go a long way out there to get all these connections. Is Charles Manson in Vacaville? Oh, I didn't know that's where he was. Okay, well I'm going to tell you a bunch about Vacaville, so it's not surprising that he's at Vacaville.)

So Leo Ryan is really pestering the CIA to get all their covert operations under direct funding oversight and budgetary control of Congress. He is bugging the CIA about their mind control research. He has found out that Donald Defreeze was at Vacaville at the same time it was a research site, we are seeing another document saying that is MKSearch and the investigator is James Hamilton, who had Top Secret Clearance. Also Leo Ryan was involved in Jones town, because he was killed at the airport. Well that's very funny.

How does Leo Ryan connect down to Patty Hearst? Patty Hearst was captured by the Symbionese Liberation Army, which was headed by Donald Defreeze whose code name was Cinque. She was found guilty. She was actually a Manchurian Candidate, a DDNOS level Manchurian Candidate, who was captured, if you don't remember the story, she was the daughter of William Randolph Hearst who ran the San Francisco Chronicle who was running a whole lot of critical articles about the People's Temple - Jim Jones' cult while it was still in Ukiah, California. His daughter, Patty Hearst, who was a college student, was captured by the SLA at gunpoint with submachine guns, kept locked in a closet for 42 days, and subjected to very systematic coercive, persuasive brainwashing and mind control techniques, until she adopted a new identity named "Tanya" and lost all emotional connectedness to her prior life and her parents. She participated in the robbing of a bank and was found guilty.

The Free Patty Hearst Movement was headed by Leo Ryan, who was very active in getting clemency for her from the President. How does Patty Hearst connect to Donald Defreeze? Well, he captured her. How does Donald Defreeze connect to Vacaville? Well he was at Vacaville as a prisoner. What is Vacaville? Well, let's hop over here to Joly West. That will help us to figure it out. Joly West was the expert witness in the trial for Patty Hearst. Who were the expert witnesses called to explain to the jury that Patty Hearst was actually a victim of coercive persuasion, mind control and brainwashing ... Joly West, Margaret Singer, Robert Lifton and Martin Orne. So what did Joly West have to do with Vacaville?

Joly West was Head of the UCLA Violence Project which was approved by Ronald Reagan when he was Governor of California, then shut down by public protest. It was spearheaded by a number of people including some people who were very interested in the history of CIA military mind control, and have written books about it. Well the UCLA Violence Project you are going to see in subsequent slides, but it included research and experimentation that was going to be done at Vacaville Prison where they had the maxi-maxi which is the maximum security place for the most freaked out behaviourally disturbed psychotic psychologically difficult inmates in the California prison system which included Donald Defreeze and Charles Manson we hear.

Who is Colston Westbrook? According to a book on the Phoenix program which is the CIA's covert operation in the Vietnam War for killing 20 VC infrastructure non-military personnel headed by William Colby, future Director of the CIA. According to that book, Colston Westbrook was a CIA Psy-War expert in Vietnam who came back to the USA to Vacaville Prison under cover of the Black Cultural Association and used behavioural modification techniques on Donald Defreeze and gave him his code name Cinque, and devised the seven headed logo of the Symbionese Liberation Army. Subsequent to this coercive persuasion work done on Donald Defreeze by this Psy-War expert employed by the CIA in Vietnam. Donald Defreeze was transferred to another location in the jail from which he very easily escaped the next day only to go capture Patty Hearst and use very systematic and sophisticated mind control techniques on her despite the fact that he was a functionally illiterate black person off the streets.

It's a very expensive book, it costs over $100, published by the Edwin Mellon Press, PO Box 450, Lewiston, N.Y. 14092 and then two paperbacks which are published by Avon Books, both of which are owned by the Hearst Corporation: Douglas Valentine, 1990, "The Phoenix Program", N.Y. Avon Books and the specific reference is p. 337. "Patty Hearst: her own story", Avon Books, N.Y. pp. 133-34. This is from "Jonestown: A CIA Medical Experiment". This is some general background now. There is this guy, James Frank, who won the 1925 Nobel Prize in Physics who came over to be part of the Manhattan Project which created the atomic bomb. That is sort of the precursor of the Paperclip Project, which we will get to in future slides. He recruited Lawrence Layton into the Manhattan Project so that's the connection between these people.

Now we're going to go to this Layton family. There's Hugo Phillip and Anita Lee Howbwood(sp) married in Germany in 1914 and they moved to the USA. They had two daughters, Eva and Lisa. Eva doesn't really fit into the story. Eva worked for the CIA at Berkeley. The author of this "Jonestown: A CIA Medical Experiment" got all this information from the public records by just piecing it together, bit by bit by bit, and the documentation in their references is pretty solid and convincing. Eva worked for the CIA at Berkeley and her job at the library was to keep track of all the left-wing literature taken out of the library and the names of the people who took those books out and report that to the CIA. Berkeley's got a lot of top-notch people ... such as Richard Ofshe. Lisa married Lawrence Layton who was recruited for the Manhattan Project by James Frank. He later worked at Dugway Proving Ground where radiation experiments were done including release of radioactivity for wind dispersal over civilian populations.

He was an expert in dispersal of biological and chemical weapons. That Dugway Proving Ground was also one o f the sites where Army LSD research was conducted. This couple had four children - Deborah who married Phil Blaikie, Lawrence Jr., Annalisa and Thomas. These two are not so involved in the picture. Lawrence Jr. was on-site at the People's Temple, Lisa was on-site at the People's Temple in Jonestown in British Guyana, Deborah was on-site there and she was the chief financial officer for the People's Temple operation. She left Jonestown shortly before the mass suicide and went back to Georgetown, the capital of British Guyana, accompanied by the CIA Chief of Station for Georgetown.

Phil Blaikie was an interesting guy with international arms sales and British Intelligence background if I remember right. This is where it really starts to get convincing and amazing. We have all heard about Jonestown. We all know that Jim Jones had this group of people and he was in Ukiah, California and then all of a sudden he moved to the middle of the jungle in British Guyana. I assume we all had the same sort of experience I had. You just sort of take that at face value. Here's this nut. He moves down to the middle of the jungle in British Guyana. But how did he ever choose this location? Who scouted it out? What about the logistics of getting all the lumber, all the oil drums, all the everything down to the middle of the jungle in British Guyana? You have to build an airport, you have to transport ... this is a huge, huge project.

Well, it turns out this wasn't just jungle before the People's Temple arrived. It was the Shalom Project from 1973 to 1975 and Phil Blaikie oversaw the engineering development of the site in its transition from the Shalom Project to the People's Temple. What was the Shalom Project? It was a CIA operation for training black mercenary guerrillas for operations in Angola. This was a CIA training site. This was not a random, unconnected site. That's just some general background.

We're going to pick up Jonestown as we walk along here through these crystal clear slides. Okay, we heard part of the story. Here's J. Edgar Hoover, he's corresponded with Estabrooks who was creating Manchurian Candidates, Patty Hearst is a Manchurian Candidate, her identity of Tanya is deliberately programmed in by Donald Defreeze who is in Vacaville State Prison which was an MKSearch site which is also a site for the UCLA Violence Project, Vacaville is a CIA research site, Patty Hearst is connected down to Joly West who is her expert witness in her trial who says in effect she is a Manchurian Candidate, DDNOS level. He's the expert witness for Jack Ruby who is connected to Lee Harvey Oswald.

I went to one of the JFK Assassination meetings in Dallas a couple of years ago where a guy presented a bunch of information including a photocopy of a letter by J. Edgar Hoover dated 1960 expressing concern that Lee Harvey Oswald had been doubled. The FBI was on top of Lee Harvey Oswald, was on top of him, and was tracking him systemically well before the assassination. So that connect J. Edgar Hoover over to Lee Harvey Oswald who is connected to Jack Ruby. How does Wounded Knee get in there?

Wounded Knee is an Indian uprising where the FBI were shooting up the Sioux Indians. Russell Means was heavily involved in that. What does Russell Means have to do with Jonestown? Well, Jim Jones was a good PR guy. When Patty Hearst was kidnapped he offered William Randolph Hearst a program to set up a collection/donation of money to pay the ransom to the SLA. And the SLA was demanding something like $170 million from Hearst for the release of Patty Hearst. Jim Jones offered to set up this fund, but Hearst said no. The next outcome was that the SLA also wanted food donated to poor people that they said they were representing in a revolution. So a committee was set up to do food distribution, financed by William Randolph Hearst. According to this book, the way that food distribution was done was Jim Jones got control of the mechanisms and he brought people down from the People's Temple down to be the homeless and poor people who received the food and the same food was distributed around the network six times, constantly being picked up by new People's Temple people, and taken back to the distribution point. So actually only one-sixth as much food was purchased as it appeared, and the rest was skimmed by the People's Temple. Russell Means was on the committee that oversaw this operation and his wife was bailed out of jail in Oregon the year before at a cost of $19,000 by Jim Jones. (Russell Means works for Walt Disney - comment from conference audience.) So this arrow here actually goes over to Mickey Mouse ...

We did Vacaville, MKSearch, that's all connected into Patty Hearst, Donald Defreeze, we've got that part ... MKULTRA connected to UCLA. What does MKULTRA have to do with that Sugi U2 base ... that's the U2 spy plane. Well that's according to information from JFK assassination researchers that I haven't independently confirmed, that was an MKULTRA site, Lee Harvey Oswald was stationed there. U2 was the plane that Gary Powers went down in. It was a spy plane that over-flew the Soviet Union. It was also used for surveillance of Martin Luther King ... that's an acknowledged fact. The FBI used U2 planes to keep track of him. According to a book which is a little shaky in terms of its documentation, the people who were consulted on the mental state of Gary Powers, the pilot of the U2 that was downed included Ewen Cameron who was an MKULTRA contractor who did the experimentation on Linda McDonald who I told you about earlier.

Ewen Cameron was also one of the people who went over and interviewed the Nazi war criminals at Nuremburg to do mental statuses on them. So the FBI is in there fairly tight. Let's just talk about MKULTRA, MKSearch assassination connections. This is now out and beyond Oliver Stone, and we're going to pick up JFK, a little bit of Jonestown, a little bit of this and that here. So we've got MKSearch, Carl Pfeiffer was a contractor for MKSearch and MKULTRA. One of the sites he worked at is the New Jersey Reformatory at Bordentown which was in some of those preliminary MKULTRA lists that I showed. In Walter Bowart's book, "Operation Mind Control", he talks about Luis Castillo. Luis Castillo was arrested by the FBI, the Phillippines equivalent of the FBI, on suspicion of being there to assassinate Marcos. In 300 pages of transcript of the interrogation of Luis Castillo by the Phillipines FBI, that's in the possession of the JFK Assassination researcher who told me where George Estabrooks' personal papers are, Luis Castillo describes very clearly (and this is also described in Walter Bowart's book) having MPD.

So here's a potential assassin of Marcos who describes undocumented MPD who was at the New Jersey Reformatory at Bordentown at the same time it was an MKSearch hallucinogen site and an MKULTRA hallucinogen site. We've got Lee Harvey Oswald who was at Sugi Air Force Base which is apparently an MKULTRA research site who is connected to Jack Ruby who is connected to Joly West who is an MKULTRA contractor who is the expert witness for Patty Hearst whose Manchurian Candidate identity "Tanya" was created by Donald Defreeze from Vacaville State Prison which was an MKSearch site which takes us back to the New Jersey Reformatory at Bordentown. This is all just random coincidence, as I am sure you appreciate.

How about JFK/CIA mind control research connections? I might come back to Jonestown in more detail. I am just trying to get through all these slides here. This is a very pretty little diagram with CIA at the hub and we've got a wheel going all the way around. There is a game that I saw in the newspaper called "Who was in a movie with Kevin Bacon?" and the purpose of the game ... you can name any Hollywood star and within six steps you can get from that person to Kevin Bacon because this person was in a movie who was in a movie with this person who was in a movie with Kevin Bacon. This is the same logic here. We can start anywhere, we can connect Joly West to the CIA. Neale Birch is a CIA Office of Naval Research mind control consultant in Houston. Robert Heath is a CIA and military funded brain electrode researcher at Tulane. Well let's just go through this random assortment of individuals here. Robert Heath is doing brain electrode implant and other research for the CIA in Tulane. He publishes a paper with Bernie Saltzberg. Bernie Saltzberg publishes with Neale Birch who is funded by the CIA and the military. Neale Birch publishes an edited book - contributor of a chapter in that book is Joly West who describes the UCLA Violence Project in that book edited by Neale Birch. Joly West interviews Jack Ruby. Jack Ruby shoots Lee Harvey Oswald. Okay well that's interesting. That's the end of the story.

Except let's run back around this way. Robert Heath publishes with Francisco Silva who is still alive and I am going to try and interview him in Baton Rouge. Francisco Silva is a Cuban psychiatrist who left in the random year of 1959 which is when Castro took over, to take up residence in Louisiana and publish with Robert Heath who told my secretary that Francisco was a very wonderful person. In the Warren Commission documents, there is uncorroborated testimony by Lee Harvey Oswald that in 1963, prior to the assassination, he lived with Francisco Silva and was temporarily employed at the hospital where Francisco Silva worked. I am just sort of playing mind games with you ... this is all just meaningless coincidence.

Project Paperclip and Mind Control Research - we heard about Allen Dulles already, he was the Director of the CIA before George Bush was the Director of the CIA, which in turn was before George Bush was the President. Allen Dulles is head of the CIA during MKULTRA program and obviously was aware of it and oversaw it. The CIA goes down to this Reinhard Gehlen guy who is the German spymaster who is recruited by Dulles to become our boy spying against the Russians, our enemies who were previously were our friends. Reinhard Gehlen was in effect a Nazi War Criminal. Reinhard Gehlen is in effect a Nazi War Criminal. Project Paperclip is a fully documented - one of a group of projects including Project National Interest, Project 63, Bloodstone - there is a bunch of other projects but Paperclip is the best known one.

There are several books about it. Paperclip is a project set up by CIA and military intelligence to bring Nazi war criminals into the USA through a mechanism that routed them around the State Department. State Department rules were that if you were a Nazi war criminal, you couldn't enter the USA. But there was a mad scramble at the end of World War II involving the USA, Canada, France, Britain, German and Russian governments who were all scrambling to get their hands on German scientists.

There were all kinds of recruiting drives, etc. American teams would actually go into the Russian sector and go to a place where German scientists were being held, and sneak those guys out of there. It was quite an intense little party that was going on. In Project Paperclip (this is totally documented) all types of scientists were brought over to the USA. Film experts, ball bearing experts, lubricants, rockets, every aspect of science and technology of interest to the military. This is included somewhat obscure people like Werner Von Braun. Werner Von Braun was head of the rocket program. He was the guy who was in charge of the V2 rockets that were used to bomb Britain that were created for Mittelwerk(sp) ... the labour for Mittelwerk was supplied from Camp Dora(sp). When the American troops liberated Camp Dora they found 6000 corpses on the ground. It is estimated that about 20,000 people were worked to death out of Camp Dora building the V2 rockets. Werner von Braun is documented as being on site at the Mittelwerk at least 20 times, and being at meetings of V2 oversight personnel where the use of prisoners being worked to death was discussed and condoned, and the workers would sometimes attempt to sabotage the rockets by urinating a part or tampering with the rocket. The typical response to that was that the entire work crew would be instantly hung in their work tunnel. He was also a member of the S.S. and there is correspondence on US Space Program stationery to a journalist where Werner von Braun admits he was an SS Officer. So he was a Nazi war criminal who couldn't be brought in through a normal kind of visa process.

Another person who was brought in through Paperclip or another related project was Albertus Stroekhold(sp). Albertus Stroekhold is regarded as the father of aviation medicine. There is a library named after him at Lakland(sp) Air Force Base in San Antonio, Texas. He was honoured by the Daughters of the American Revolution for his contributions to Aviation Medicine and the Texas State Legislature declared a one-time state memorial day named after him in, I believe, the 1960's. Albertus Stroekhold was not a nice person. People on his own administrative level, people who reported to him and people he reported to were all tried and found guilty of war crimes at Nuremburg. He was not even interviewed by the U.S. lawyers responsible for that sector of Nuremburg. The types of experiments that these people did included things like putting people in a pressure chamber and dropping the pressure instantly to about 60,000 feet to simulate somebody being blown out of a cockpit if they were a U.S. pilot.

What would happen is they would cause their faces to have excruciating pain, they would actually die or almost die. The ones who died would be taken out of the chamber, their heads would be cut open, their heads would be submerged under water, their heads would then be sliced open to determine whether there was air emboli in their cerebral arteries. Another type of experiment done by these people was an attempt to find an antidote to seawater so that downed German pilots in the North Sea could drink seawater. So these people were given forced feedings of seawater for days on end which then would be doctored with various different substances to see if any of the substances would prevent any of the subjects from dying. This is major full-scale Nazi war crime doctor stuff, and probably over 1000 of these scientists were brought under Project Paperclip.

Nazi war criminals were examined by a team of psychiatrists including Ewen Cameron who did LSD and mescaline research and was an MKULTRA contractor. LSD and mescaline research was also funded by MKULTRA and mescaline research was done by the Nazi war criminals in the POW camps. So Ewen Cameron probably got the bright idea of doing LSD research from the Nazi war criminals. According to this book which is not really rock solid in its documentation, he was still in network up in the early 1960's when the U2 pilot went down. So that the only people who are missing from this fully, completely documented history are the psychological warfare experts. It is not plausible that the only kind of scientists out of the full range of expertise that were not brought over were the psychological experts. A guy who was a deep-ops character in Vietnam described being out in the field and coming across US and VC personnel who were all totally wasted on some sort of hallucinogen trip. Their job was simply to extract these guys and leave the VC who were just completely out of it on the ground. He told me which specific location in the USA would be the most likely place to find some of these Paperclip psychological experts, so I am going to pursue that.

Let's just take a look at the brain electrode implant research. Now let's say it's just not believable that the CIA and the military have been creating Manchurian Candidates-it's just too much like science fiction. Well, what do we know for a fact that they have been doing? We know that they have been giving kids a few mcg. per kg. big-time street doses of LSD days, weeks and months up to years in a row. We know that they have been implanting non-therapeutic brain electrodes in children as young as 11 years old on an experimental basis, and we know they have been wiping out people's entire personal histories with 100+ ECT treatments and massive sleep inductions through drugs for no therapeutic reason whatsoever but we don't think they would go as far as creating a Manchurian Candidate. So it doesn't add up.

What we know for an absolute documented fact is that they've gone way beyond monkeying around with some amnesia barriers and new identities so what's the story on brain electrode implant research? Here's a name you might recognize. Brain electrode implant research was funded by the CIA and MKULTRA in conjunction with the Office of Naval Research. There is a lot of joint funding of various projects by Office of Naval Research and the CIA. The Office of Naval Research funded both Neale Birch and the CIA. Neale Birch published that thing by Joly West. Joly West started the UCLA Violence Project which was going to be at Vacaville which was where Donald Defreeze was. He recruited a brain electrode implant psychiatrist who was part of a brain electrode team at Harvard, Frank Ervin, to be part of the UCLA Violence Project. He denies in his chapter in the book edited by Neale Birch that there is any intention to do brain electrode implant, but the available evidence suggests that actually in fact the plan was to stick brain electrodes in some of these prisoners at Vacaville and the concept was that you would use this for tracking of their whereabouts and if they were off their circuit locations or there was a certain kind of discharge from their brain, you could then transmit a signal to them to arrest their behaviour so that they could be picked up by the police.

He is also funded by Army Intelligence. Army Intelligence funded Neale Birch. Army Intelligence funded Robert Heath at Tulane who did brain electrode implant research. We saw him on the previous page. The Office of Naval Research funded Jose Delgado at Yale who did brain electrode implant research. This is the guy to whom Harold Lief sent a patient. His experiments include sticking electrodes in brains, as I mentioned, and then pouring in different kinds of hallucinogens in order to see the effect on perception and behaviour and electrical activity in their brain. This guy, Jose Delgado, who is tightly in network, who is famous for a videotape of a bull charging at him then he pushes the transmitter box which sends a signal to the electrodes implanted in the bull's brain, and the bull turns away. He also has a series of papers which are in my Jose Delgado file where he does this kind of research on cats and he refers to the cats in which he has implanted brain electrodes that he is controlling by transmitter as "mechanical toys".

By loose association, this reminds me of a book called "Man the Mechanical Misfit" written by George H. Estabrooks. He also describes a technical innovation in an 11 year old boy who had brain electrodes implanted for non therapeutic reasons. Previously you had to have wires connecting the transmitter box directly to the electrode terminals that were sticking through the skull. In this 11 year old boy, however, Jose Delgado had figured out how to have a remote transmitter without a direct wire connection. He describes pushing a button in this otherwise normal 11 year old boy's brain transmitter box and the boy starts being confused about his identity, wondering whether he is a girl and talking about wanting to marry Jose Delgado. He pushes another button, and this behaviour stops. Another Delgado experiment is a 16 year old girl who looks maybe like a mild borderline, pre-morbidly, involves sticking these brain electrodes in and there is actually pictures in the paper that you can photocopy when you go to the medical school library, it's in a journal on the shelf-where in one picture she's got this vacant stupid grin on her face, push another button on the panel box and she is pounding the panel on the wall. So they are showing actual photographs of markedly different behavioural states-totally controlled by remote transmitter and brain electrode implants. But these guys wouldn't be using hypnosis to create Manchurian Candidates ...

Let's look at temporal lobe epilepsy and military mind control research for a minute. Let's try and think about the history of MPD. What are some of the bogus reasons that MPD is not real? One of the big arguments is that it is really temporal lobe epilepsy. We know that temporal lobe epilepsy has been used as one of the arms of Manchurian Candidate denial. Here we have how that little network works. We've got Robert Heath who is doing non- therapeutic brain electrode implants plus brain electrode implants on temporal lobe epilepsy subjects. That's all funded by military intelligence and the CIA. We've got temporal lobe epilepsy as a phenomena. Frank Irvin (who was recruited by Joly West for the UCLA Violence Project) and Mark Sweet write a book called "Violence and the Brain" in which they describe doing brain electrode implants with people with temporal lobe epilepsy. One of their subjects had a very unusual form of temporal lobe epilepsy. He was driving a truck in Los Angeles and came to in Phoenix. So actually these people were doing brain electrode implants on multiples. Well, they could be alcoholics, but the description (remember this guy drove a tuck from LA to Phoenix, that's a little bit much for an alcoholic blackout) -- some of the other case histories clearly sound dissociative in nature. But they are calling them temporal lobe epilepsy just like Joly West said Jack Ruby had temporal lobe epilepsy.

There is this misinformation in the literature that DID is actually due to temporal lobe epilepsy and there are nine authors in a series of papers in the early to mid-1980's pumping this DID is really temporal lobe epilepsy line. This shows you how this research works because I haven't done this but the hypothesis is now that these nine authors are somehow going to be in network. So the odds are that the nine authors who published these papers saying that DID is just temporal lobe epilepsy are going to be in network in this mind control old boy network somehow. I just haven't researched that up. Borderline personality disorder where multiples are really just borderline is another back-up strategy, and how does borderline personality disorder tie up with military mind control research?

Well, DID is iatrogenic, they are really just borderlines. Martin Orne says that, Richard Ofshe says that, Martin Orne worked for MKULTRA which is connected to MKNaomi, MKNaomi was also conducted at Edgeware Arsenal where Amadeo Morazzi worked who did LSD research for the Air Force in Minnesota funded by Air Force Intelligence. Robert Heath also did Air Force research. LSD research was done by Nazi scientists and war criminals. Nazi scientists and war criminals were imported into Edgeware Arsenal frequently, and one of the people that I researched was .Wagner Joreg, who is apparently the son of the Wagner Joreg(sp) who won the Nobel Prize for treating syphillis with malaria. I haven't researched that up fully but he came up to Edgeware Arsenal and I have him documented as being a German University Professor in the 1930's and 1940's showing up at Edgeware Arsenal and publishing research on antidotes to chemical warfare weapons and saying that he regrets the extremely long period of time in which it was impossible to publish his research data.

So he did this research at Edgeware Arsenal which overlaps with the time that Amadeo Morazzi was there who did LSD research at the University of Minnesota. Another person who did LSD research is Paul Hawk who worked for the CIA, and is one of the inventors of the term "borderline personality disorder". So this is a little bit hokey this one. But it just shows you - the theme here is not that there is a military intelligence conspiracy to cover up Manchurian Candidate creation with the myth of borderline personality disorder. The point now is a more of a global general metapoint which is this whole network of old boys in psychiatry and psychology who were covertly funded for part of the military and CIA intelligence mind control network are very influential in the history of psychiatry in a kind of nebulous fashion that just permeates the whole field.

It isn't part of the sort of one-to-one correspondences that I have been showing before. It's a matter of the whole mindset of psychiatry - how we think about borderlines, how we think about temporal lobe epilepsy, what are we going to react to MPD like? Well we are going to react to MPD like - it' a little bit more vague, a little bit more global, it's a little bit more general - but the point is that the history of psychiatry in the second half of the twentieth century is undoubtedly been strongly skewed-not by an agenda that has to do with academic research, not by the best interest of clients, not by ethical psychiatry, but by an Intelligence agenda.

My beef is not with the intelligence community or the CIA. It's with the psychiatrists and the psychologists who created a little loophole where they can step out of normal ethical oversight, violate the Hippocratic Oath, get away with it, not talk about it, and just like the conspiracy to keep incest under the carpet, this is all conspired and kept under the carpet - not by twelve guys in a room at Langley who are doing the planning, but just by this pervasive old boys network that's keeping the mind control secret down just like it kept the incest secret down. So that's another reason why this is important, and needs to be uncovered. That's the end of the slides.

Now I am going to come back to Jonestown a little bit, and fill you in on Jonestown and then I see I am way ahead of schedule which is fine because I have got a lot more to tell you, and you can ask a whole bunch of questions, and we can have a discussion. According to this Jonestown book - remember that there's a connection between Patty Hearst's being kidnapped by Donald Defreeze who is mind controlled by Colston Westbrook who is a CIA psy-war expert and then there is the food relief program for the ransom by Jim Jones who is being hassled by William Randolph Hearst newspaper that ties into Russell Means being on the Board. Well according to a person who survived the White Night at Jonestown, Patty Hearst's boyfriend, Steven Weed, was onsite at the People's Temple at Ukiah, California and observed talking to Jim Jones three months before the kidnapping. If that is true, then that just blows the coincidence conspiracy theory out of the water. It is too much not to be all connected up. According to the book there is pretty solid documentation to prove that Jim Jones was recruited by the CIA way back in the 1950's and he was a coercive persuasion brainwashing expert who had some Churches in Cincinatti then moved out to California.

He specialize in coercive persuasion on Blacks and Native Americans, almost all of the people at Jonestown were not white except for the elite who survived and he was on-site at two South American countries - I think Brazil and British Guyana as a CIA undercover operative doing typical CIA operations as part of government overthrow both by stirring up left wing factions, stirring up labour, distributing leaflets and so on. So he was actually part of standard CIA operations going way back to the 1950's. The evidence in favour of it actually being a drug experiment is pretty weak. He says there was Drug A, Drug B and placebo and the point of the experiment was do either of the active drugs enhance the voluntary completed suicide rate of the brainwashed subjects. But he doesn't really provide any documentation to support that. He just sort of pulls that out of nowhere. So that's not very plausible. Also he talks about MKULTRA in a non-scholarly way because MKULTRA had already stopped. So it wasn't technically an MKULTRA operation.

There's a lot of elaborate detail in the book. For instance Jim Jones visited Castro. There are a lot of connections between the CIA being the site for Jonestown in British Guyana before they went there and all kinds of visiting back and forth from CIA stations in the capital of Guyana to the people staying at the Temple. Like I said, one of those daughters in the Layton family was escorted out of Jonestown just before White Night by the CIA station chief. It just builds up like that. There are dozens and dozens and dozens of these kind of documented pieces of information. There is a whole bunch of stuff about people who were assassinated by the People's Temple and a bunch of numerological and letter type codes about how these people were selected and how their last names mirrored the method by which they were killed. There is this whole kind of vast detail which leaves me with the next conclusion that it is beyond coincidence.

Whether it is actually a medical experiment is not clearly established, except the most compelling fact is the method of delivery of the drugs. Every night every member of the Jonestown commune had to go to the kitchen and eat one cookie in front of personnel. And he says the cookie is where the drugs were delivered. I would say the next conclusion is probably more than 50/50% likely that there was some sort of heavy CIA involvement in Jonestown, whether or not it was a drug experiment. In terms of how many people actually committed suicide, according to this book, only a minority of people committed suicide, many were shot or injected with cyanide. Only a minority actually drank it voluntarily.

And when you look at the configuration of bodies on the ground, these are not people who just drank, died and fell on the ground-they are all lined up in orderly rows. There's a whole deal of how one of the Layton family members-her identity was switched with one of the other members who had lung cancer and she was actually escorted off the grounds on the grounds of having lung cancer. But there was somebody else who had lung cancer, and there is substitution of bodies, there is a claim that the guy who was identified as being Jim Jones was not actually Jim Jones. So you have to read the book to get the whole wealth of detail. I would say it is fairly compelling and persuasive. Which takes us back into how come all these guys who are connected into network tend to be experts in mind control, brainwashing, coercive persuasion, destructive cults?

And why is it that destructive cults appear to specialize in creating Manchurian Candidates? You just keep going round and round this network and the more you research into it- and this is only part way along the journey-if you actually had a team of ten researchers-you would end up with fifty of these slides with every (some of it speculative) but every connection fully documented on fifty slides. Another curious twist on this story is the history of LSD. One of the things that goes on is there is always information and disinformation. One of the strategies for disinformation is called a limited hang-out is when you let out a little bit of the truth, then you go, "oh see we 'fessed up!" But actually you only let out 3% and the purpose of the limited hang-out is to cover up the rest. There's always a limited hang-out going on. Every time a bunch of stuff is declassified that's only the tip of the iceberg. If we take a look at the history of LSD, something that was not taught to me when I was a psychiatry resident is who are the original acid-heads?

Could it have been, like, maybe, beatniks? Maybe Allen Ginsburg. Could have been Ken Kesey, maybe. No the original acid-heads in North America were the leading figures in psychiatry. The people who imported LSD into North America were the CIA and the military. It didn't get here through street or drug dealer routes. It got here through official military CIA mind control mechanisms. The CIA at one time actually considered buying up the world supply of LSD from Sandoz. Like I said their alternative back-up was to contract with Elli Lily to provide a secure supply of LSD. These guys were on acid-trips in the first half of the 1950's. People who first got turned on to LSD as subjects in military experiments included Gregory Bateson, Allen Ginsburg, Ken Kesey, probably Timothy Leary. Gregory Bateson was married to Margaret Mead who was funded in her anthropological work by the CIA. There is a whole other dimension of this which is funding-this is a fact.

In...another story about anthropology ... a little glimpse of which we capture from Raymond Prince who was funded under MKULTRA to go study the Yoruba. This is called "Study of Mind Control Techniques by Witch Doctors Around the World". Now, Raymond Prince's hypothesis is that actually it is just a way to go undercover in a foreign country and get better information about the culture and establish contact with possible agents and recruits. But the CIA - as part of its proper operations in the Cold War - has had to gather a tremendous amount of data on the stability of various societies and countries which are likely to tip over to Communism which involves sociology, economics, military analysis and anthropology ... anthropology, languages, and linguistics are all part of the operation.

All these people who were the original acid-heads are the psychiatrists, and the psychiatrists, when you read the LSD sponsored symposia-the guy who is the archivist for the American College of Psychiatrists, Sydney Mallett (sp) whom I plan to contact-the American College of Psychiatrists is this old boys club in American Psychiatry that I got into because I got a fellowship from them as a resident -- (to audience: "No, I don't think it was CIA funded ... unless Meade Johnson was functioning as a cutout ... the money supposedly came from Meade Johnson"). That's the way the network works ... it's a joke ... but you never know ... so the guy who is the archivist-historian in one of these CIA symposia in the early 1960's talks about how he was turned on to LSD by Paul Hawk who was responsible for the term "borderline personality disorder" and killed the tennis pro with mescaline. All these guys are writing and talking about LSD as "the hot thing" in psychotherapy. They are totally on board with it, and usually they are talking about sub hallucinogenic doses ... like 60 mg, 75 mg as loosening up the ego and causing these amazing treatment responses, like curing long-term alcoholism in a single LSD psychotherapy session. They are all getting funded by it, they are getting perked by it, they are going for trips, they are meeting their buddies, they are going to conferences, they are getting published, they are getting books edited-it's all just part of the whole program. Nobody in psychiatry is saying "bad stuff, dangerous stuff, street drug, protect the youth of America"-they are not talking like that.

All of a sudden, boom, it's a narcotic and it's outlawed by FDA. What is the initial response of all these grey-haired fathers of psychiatry to making LSD an illegal substance? Protest, it's a bad thing, it's robbing us of a powerful psychotherapeutic agent, it's crippling our research efforts. These guys were hung out to dry. They were used by Intelligence Agencies to gather therapeutic use of LSD, interrogation use of LSD, psychotomenitic (sp) use of LSD and then when they had done their job, LSD was just canceled from academia. It was made illegal, and then a whole disinformation campaign went along with that whereby LSD was transformed from this wonderful therapeutic agent whose use was advocated by the major leading figures in psychiatry into this horrible thing that made children jump out of windows and bust up their chromosomes. It's called a "disinformation campaign". And it caught the leaders of psychiatry totally by surprise, which is hard to believe since psychiatrists are such clever political strategists in general.

What about this whole creating Manchurian Candidate stuff which we see now for a fact has been going on since WWII? And according to Estabrooks, even back to WWI? We now have established for a proven fact that was going on during WWII, and the CIA was working on it in Artichoke and Bluebird from 1951-53. The Korean War only started in 1950. The disinformation was that our boys went overseas there, they got shot down, they got captured, the Communist Chinese worked on them with these strange techniques we don't understand. The person who coined the term "brainwashing" in a book was Edwin Hunter. He's a career CIA officer. This was a term coined by the CIA to explain what was happening to our boys in North Korea who were making bold statements about germ warfare activities they had been involved in. Now it could be that part of the Communist brainwashing strategy was to talk to these guys about the ethical improprieties of biological warfare and bombing they actually had been doing in North Korea. In any rate, they come home as Manchurian Candidates. We are all bent out of shape because our boys are talking Communism, so we say that we have got to start studying this reactively and defensively because of what the Commies are doing. That is the disinformation myth that has been adhered to by the Military Intelligence community steadfastly from the Korean War to the present.

It's totally bullshit. It's disinformation. It's not a fact. It's a made up story to cover up the fact that actually we had operational offensive use of this psychological warfare technology already in place in WWII. We have a major disinformation campaign which has basically fooled mental health professions and the general public concerning brainwashing, concerning LSD. Fortunately those are the only two examples in human history. This analysis does not apply to the False Memory movement. There is no way it could conceivably be possible, you will all agree, that there could be any nervousness in the Intelligence Community about Manchurian Candidates spilling out into civilian psychotherapies and that a disinformation program based on False Memories would be required. It is obviously absurd. Nobody but a CIA conspiracy nut would ever suggest that.

I guarantee you that that thought has never even crossed my mind until it just spontaneously appeared at this moment. So you see, actually, in fact, the idea that there could be a deliberate disinformation campaign element to the False Memory movement is perfectly plausible, consistent with history, and could be expected. There is bound to be some sort of disinformation strategy if in fact Manchurian Candidates have been leaking out into civilian psychotherapy. So here we have, with all of this documentation, all of this proof ... we know that it is perfectly possible that people we are seeing in therapy who are claiming to be victims of systematic military mind control experimentation are telling us about what actually happened to them.

However, I am not a single step further ahead than I was four years ago on actually documenting that any single patient in treatment actually in fact was involved in these mind control experiments. There is no linkage at all from the current patients in treatment to this documentation. So whether we are ever going to get that or not, I don't know. (From audience: Mind Control and the Military can be found on America On-Line on the Internet - "On Psych"-and there are websites). Apparently there is a lot of information about this on the web and on Internet and AOl and elsewhere. But the problem is, I don't go to chat rooms very often, but most of it is totally banal, and silly and boring and a waste of time. So when you go into the stuff on mind control, how much is garbage that you are going to get, and how much is solid stuff that you can pursue and document are you going to get is my question. I have no idea what the answer is. But, as we all know, the truth is out there.

(From the audience: "how would I go about documenting that a patient I, or somebody else, currently has in treatment, in fact was involved in that kind of experimentation?") Well, here's how the documentation has gone so far. By the way, I have done Freedom of Information Act requests on MONARCH at all Intelligence Agencies, and they have all denied it exists. The patient apparently has no source of contamination for specific MONARCH memories, but has the word Monarch in her mind, and has very specific detailed Monarch-type mind control memories. Her father basically abused her domestically and ritualistically, and then took her over to the mind control people. How she got there, what the transport mechanism was .. plane, car, location is all vague because she appears to have been all drugged out then transported. Is it possible that her father could have been this kind of person? Well, I have his military service records which I got through the Freedom of Information Act, I have a letter from him in prison where he is imprisoned for mob crime connections, I've got a mother and a sister corroborating the domestic incest, the sister with some patchy corroboration of ritualistic and mind control memories, I've got the father personally connected to Jack Ruby. That's as far as it goes. It's sort of circumstantial and intriguing.

So the way I would attempt to document it would be if the person tells me (most people can't tell you the specific name of the doctor) but if somebody gives you a specific name of a doctor, and gives you a specific location, and you can establish that this doctor actually existed, and you can establish that in fact this doctor was a CIA employee, and you can establish that this person's father was imprisoned by the FBI as part of a Mafia raid by looking at the journal articles that the patient has, then you are starting to get closer and closer. So it is your basic investigative reporting type stuff. Name the specific base. Okay what do you know about the base? How did you get there? Tell me about some buildings? Tell me about personnel. Describe the uniforms. What was used? And then if you can get another subject who was there at the same time ... that's just the way it is. It is your basic investigative reporting. Which is way beyond being a therapist. There is no therapeutic obligation to do this. This is mega beyond duty to take collateral history. So I don't think there is any mystery as to how it would proceed.

And it will proceed probably in the same way as the history of declassified information since WWII. In about, I think 1988, stuff was released to the Senate and the Congress and then to the Press about all these radiation experiments. Nobody did anything. It didn't even get into the newspapers. It was in the public domain for five years before it finally hits the newspapers. Now we've got this government report that is 900 pages long on all the radiation experiments, including giving radiation to children and radiation to pregnant mothers and the children of those pregnancies dying of leukemia by age five. This is huge, big stuff. Everybody was apathetic, didn't think it was newsworthy, didn't even put it as a little trailer item in the New York Times.

This is no longer vague. We know the specific names of people, when they died, whether it was plutonium or whatever was injected, the names of the doctors, the names of the medical schools where it was done, it's all keyed up for compensation, the government has set up a whole compensation mechanism. If we look at the Tuscagee Syphilis Study ... it is worse than the creation of Manchurian Candidates.

It was set up in Tuscagee, Alabama in the 1940's. The experiment is-you've got 400 rural, dirt-poor black guys with active syphilis and 400 controls. These people are followed without treatment into the 1970's. The people who are involved in the Tuscagee Syphilis Study (it is a huge long list and I can't remember all the details of it) but it includes the County Medical Society, the administration of the study was actually taken over by the Centre of Disease Control, the Surgeon General, the American Heart Association, all kinds of people were witting, knowledgeable and aware of the study and approved its ongoing nature well into the 60's and into the 70's, in complete violation of all known medical ethics. Well okay, that was kept kind of secret. Nobody heard about it except some of these medical bigwigs.

No. I have a medical paper from the medical school published in 1965 called "Untreated Syphilis in a Male Negro - A 20 year follow-up". This stuff is published, right in the medical literature. It is looking everybody right in the face. What happens when you have 400 illiterate rural black guys with active syphilis untreated, for 40 years? Well, the outcome of the experiment is, you will be very surprised to hear, they don't do too well, they develop a lot of disease, and they die young. They do another thing. They breathe air. There is another behaviour that we can predict in these guys. They eat food. Going down the list? They urinate and defecate. Continuing along with basic human functions, they have sexual intercourse with women. Anybody who has been to medical school will tell you it is 100% guaranteed that if you take 400 black guys with syphilis and do not treat them, the rest of t heir lives, you are guaranteed to be creating cases of congenital syphilis. The entire medical community knows this as an elementary fact that you learn in first year medical school, it is published in the medical literature, and it's condoned by all levels of the old boys network in world medicine.

This is totally unbelievable and completely factual. This Manchurian Candidate stuff is like Mickey Mouse Psych stuff. It's not even heavy duty. The nurse who was the head of the Tuscagee Syphilis study throughout its duration, actually got an award from the Public Health Service because of her work on the Tuscagee Syphilis Study. The individual guys have gone and testified at the Senate. You can read the book, "Bad Blood" and these guys are named as individual human beings. Which individual human beings who are victims of military mind control research do we already know? Harold Blauer., the tennis pro who was killed. Frank Olson who was killed because he jumped through a window because he took LSD mixed with Cointro by Sidney Gottlieb, administrative Head of MKULTRA who I talked to on the telephone. When was the Olson family compensated? He died in 1955 or something. They were compensated by the President in 1977 I think it was. The reason the wife and surviving children figured that in fact this was not a simple suicide was they read the Rockefeller Report on CIA activities published in 1975 in which the case was described without him being named.

So, they are reading the Rockefeller Report, and they realize their husband/father was actually killed by experimental LSD and they are compensated for 3/4 of a million dollars. One of the people who testified at the Committee hearings at the Senate in 1975 was a technician for Amadeo Morazzi who was the guy who was the Head of Edgeware Arsenal where Paul Hawk got his LSD and mescaline from who was funded by the Air Force while he was at the University of Minnesota. His research assistant whose name is Mary Ray(sp) was given a dose of experimental LSD which resulted in an acute psychotic state for which she was admitted to hospital for which I have her medical records, and I am in contact with her lawyer and I am going to go up and get her story in more detail.

She talks about a room that was involved in the LSD research called "The Leaf Room" so when you were on your LSD trip that was administered by Amadeo Morazzi you were taken into the Leaf Room which was a room where all surfaces of the room were totally covered with leaves. This is weird stuff. She also was connected into a bunch of other stuff. I am not going to go into all of it, because it is a little weird, but it is two hops from Mary Ray to Iran Contra.

So she is a real person who exists. I know her lawyer. I talked to her lawyer on the phone. I am going to fly up there. I am going to interview her. I have her medical records. And the way this works is the stuff that is happening now is not going to be declassified for 20 or 30 years. Eventually we will have the names of people who were victims of experiments in the 70's and 80's and 90's. We already have the names for the 50's and 60's, not really into the 70's. We have the names of specific people who were victims of the Tuscagee Syphilis Study and the radiation experiments into the 70's. That's the way it goes. You are just pushing back that curtain and there's always this lag time because you are relying on the views of the Intelligence Community or public apathy ... "it was back in the Cold War" "it's different now" "we joined the boy scouts and we don't do that anymore".

So there is always a disinformation strategy for why it happened a long time ago and we don't do it now and we are very regretful and we are so regretful that we in fact agree to compensate these victims. In Oregon there was a prison where men were paid to be subjects to participate in radiation experiments. Their testicles had been irradiated so they would get paid a certain fee to participate in the radiation of their testicles. Special arrangements were made so Catholics couldn't participate in the study because they couldn't use birth control so they might give birth to genetically mutated children ... so it had to be only non-Catholic participants. There was an extra fee, it was a little bit fatter, if you would agree to testicle biopsy to see if the radiation was dropping the sperm count. When 9 of these people pressed their case to the State Legislature in Oregon in either the late 70's or early 80's, in its magnanimity, the Legislature agreed to compensate them for a total of $3000 for all nine subjects. So this is the way it goes in trying to document this stuff and trying to make it public and identify the specific individuals. IT'S A BIG SLOW JOB. And when you make Freedom of Information requests it's like interacting with any Federal Bureaucracy.

In fact the CIA has been extremely helpful, extremely polite, extremely courteous and when I went to the CIA Reading Room in Washington, it was a very unusual experience. Let me just tell you the story. Here I am, a Canadian psychiatrist, going down to the Eastern Regional Conference, and a day early I pop over to the CIA Reading Room to look at the MKULTRA documents to figure out which ones I want to order at 10 cents a page which they then shipped to me which arrives at my office via UPS with CIA stamped in the corner ... I'm wondering who thinks that's weird ... so I show up and it is just this building in Virginia, on a street, it is completely unrecognizable as anything ... I get dropped off there ... whoa ... there's all these guys in uniforms and here I am, this civilian. On the wall there is "Secure Telephone CIA and DIA Only" and I am kind of standing around and some guy says "Good Morning Sir" ... I say I am here to read some CIA documents. I am supposed to show up at this location at this time and here is the letter ... and they're going, CIA jeez ... who are we going to phone ... are you supposed to tell somebody you are here, or how is this supposed to work?

Well, I don't know, I was just told to show up here ... he says, well, we don't know who was supposed to meet you ... so I say, well, could I use your phone ... not that phone ... this phone over here. I phone my secretary and ask what's the telephone number of the contact person? She gives it to me and I tell them you're supposed to contact this person at this phone number. It's okay, they say, they're going to be down in a minute. So then I sign in ... I am escorted up the elevator ... it's all military guys and I'm in the elevator thinking okay which one of these guys is doing surveillance on me? I come up to the floor and I am walking along and it's a federal building and the floor is under repair ... there's all kinds of construction stuff lying around, and construction guys ... I go walking along accompanied by this CIA person, and I go into the first room which has a steel vault door and says "Secured Area: Treasury Department" ... I go into that room and they close the door. I am now in a Secured Area. She says Okay sign in here ... I think I signed in ... I forget. Then I go through another Secured steel door into a second Secured Area except I can't enter that Secured Area except from another Secured Space.

I sit down and they bring in all the documents on a little cart and she gives me 15-20 pencils beautifully sharpened, and a notepad and everything ... you order which documents you want at the end of the day ... and there's a woman who is at least 80, if not 85, who is a retired volunteer, sitting there watching me all day. In the room that I am in, that is a Secured Space has a door opened back to the hallway that I came down from the elevator to come to the first Secured Space to go into the ... I am sitting there working away on this huge amount of documents all day ... work work work work ... some time in the middle of the day this old woman comes at me, now I am thinking, is this old woman trying to pump me for information, what's here report going to be back at the end of the day? She says, "well, what's that stuff you are reading?" I am trying to act casually, I just say, "Well, it's just a bunch of mind control documents from the 50's and 60's." And she says well, is that stuff classified, and I say, no, no, it was declassified a long time ago, and she says, well what do they need me here for? I go, I don't know and then I stopped talking to her and I started focusing down on the paper.

So then I get distracted by a couple of black guys who are walking down the corridor who have something to do with the construction. The 85 year old woman who is watching me has to go to the restroom so they are assigned to watch me from the door. They're some black guys who start joking around, oh oh this guy's pretty dangerous, we'll have to watch him ... then at the end of the day I leave. That's my experience at the CIA. But the main contact person is very friendly, very polite, very efficient, very helpful ... and it's through this process, I mean they have given me these documents, they are the ones who have made it possible to prove that the CIA has been creating Manchurian Candidates ... I have all these other requests on MKSearch, MKNAOMI, and stuff and I am going to put one in on Stargate.

If you want to do a request on an individual, it turns out that you have to establish his place and date of birth, his full name, his date of death, the fact that he was an American citizen, and you have to have public documentation of his death before they will do a search. Which is the proper protection of people. So you have to do all of this background research to find out when did Carl Pfeiffer die, and where did he died, and get a newspaper clipping from Atlanta to document that. Then you said all that information into them, and he asks for information on this particular guy and they send you back the MKULTRA documents that you already have, that you already know is due to him, except now his name is not whited out. So a lot of it is just dealing with a Federal Bureaucracy and it's just REALLY REALLY SLOW and they say ... we've only got two secretaries and we've got a million requests and we are too overloaded and we don't have our new computer system but we are working on it ... it's it's just a VERY VERY SLOW LABORIOUS PROCESS TO GET THIS STUFF.

If it is already declassified and it is indexed, then you can get it fairly quickly ... like the MKULTRA stuff. If it is just being organized and isn't yet declassified, then you get in a line, and you are piggybacked on top of the first requester. When the first requester gets the stuff, you will get it as well. MKSEARCH? I have been waiting for a couple of years already. So it's like ... you're trying to change the way agriculture is administered in the USA ... it's this huge laborious process, and you are just trying to egg the bureaucracy on and on and on ... But just to kind of repeat the editorial comment, basically I don't have a beef with the Intelligence Agencies. My beef is with the psychiatrists and the psychologists. Questions or comments?

Q. Do I know if I am being surveilled?
A. I have been approached by millions of people at conferences. I don't know if any of them are operatives or not. I have had no negative, scary, frightening, intimidations, threats, my office hasn't been broken into, no mail tampering, nothing has gone missing, no patients have done anything weird or dangerous towards me, nobody has disappeared, no dead chickens on my doorstep ... nobody has hustled me into a black car and all of a sudden I am in Topeka, Kansas and I don't know how I got there. Nothing like that has happened, so I just assume that if it hasn't happened by now, it's already too late, like what's the point? Part of this story, and it is the personal side of it, is, how do you work your way through all this material and get more and more and more of these connections and not succumb to terminal paranoia? And it's really just sort of a Zen ... the Zen of investigating military mind control ... you just have to stay centered and decide not to be paranoid ... not let it get to you. Because you can get off into how many witnesses to the JFK assassination are dead, and what about Pan Am 103, what about Timothy McVeigh's computer chip in his buttock ... you can really get out there real fast. When he was first arrested, Timothy McVeigh said he had a computer chip implanted in his buttock ... On the other hand, I hope Intelligence Agencies are not so fast asleep ... basically ... it is narcistically injurious to think they are not paying any attention at all ... I can't take that. I know for a fact they have a file on me because I have filed millions of Freedom of Information Act requests. The other thing I know is I got my Green Card in 1994 at the highest level of Green Card there is ... it's a level where you don't have to even have a job ... or any visible sign of support ... and I got this Immigration lawyer who put my whole c.v., and all my publications, and letters from people together, and so that involves, obviously, a security screen by the State Department which means connected to Justice and connected to FBI etc etc so I know I have been screened through all that kind of mechanism and come out ... in fact, I had to go to Calgary for the Green Card and the consulate came up and shook my hand and said, "boy I bet you we've got a lot if dissociation disorders right here ... we could really use you." [lots of laughter]

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A. I think they are trying to pretend that they are not going to get uncovered and just carry on with life and enjoy their retirements ... Over all, what's going on now ... I assume that there is still a lot of research funding through cutouts with unwitting investigators ... I assume there is a bunch of witting investigators. There is another arm going on currently ... that's artificial intelligence Overall, what is going on now? I assume that there is still a lot of funding of research through cutouts with unwitting investigators. I assume there is a bunch of witting investigators. Let me tell you about another arm that is going on currently. That is artificial intelligence research. I know that, for instance, Marvin Merskey at MIT, in his book, "The Society of Minds", he acknowledges his extensive Office of Naval Research Funding. That goes back to John Lilly who is tied into the LSD network who treated dolphins with LSD - he was involved in communication with dolphins - it is a documented fact they have been used to swim up to ships to blow them up - with bombs attached to the dolphins during the Vietnam War. We hear weird stuff from patients sometimes about dolphins and mind control. John Lilly is tied into the LSD network and I have him attending CIA sponsored LSD symposia. He invented the flotation tank - flotation tank is in network in all the sensory deprivation stuff and mixed in with hallucinogens. He wrote a program on metaprogramming and the human computer which is an early artificial intelligence treatise that basically defines a modularity model of the human mind which is the dominant model of neuronetworks, all that area of artificial intelligence and a whole bunch of different Office of Naval Research funding. That is ongoing up to the present ... there is Office of Naval Research funding for this kind of project ... also for rat physiology, rat psychology ... research that has to do with modularity of brain functions and modularity of memory which all is directly relevant to creating Manchurian Candidates because you want to know the modular organization of the brain.

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A. If the hypothesis is that ... now I am not saying that everybody on the FMSF Advisory Board consciously is aware of this ... most of them are totally out to lunch and have never heard of it or thought of it ... the point would be that the Intelligence Agencies have somehow penetrated the FMS movement and are trying to spin it in that direction and amplify it for those purposes and candidate people for Intelligence oversight would be Martin Orne, Joly West, Richard Ofshe, etc. Maybe Michael Persinger. So if that is the hypothesis, the basic thing is to cover up government created Manchurian Candidates, why are all the patients coming in with SRA stories? Well, that could be just accidentally related and just part of a cultural hysteria and not real. The other paranoid conspiracy theory is that the Intelligence Agencies sub-contracted the cults to prime the children to be good subjects for really really complicated Manchurian Candidates. Because if you just start with G.I. Joe at age 19, you can't get intensely polyfragmented multi layers of defense system in place very easily. One of the pieces of logic that I didn't mention is ... if you go back to G.H. Estabrooks in WWII, he is creating one alter personality in an adult recruit. Let's look at the stages the computer is at during WWII and run up to 1996. We have to postulate that the technical advance and the increase in complexity in mind control research operations is at least somewhat parallel to the complexity of artificial intelligence, all the rest of science, etc. So if they are still doing it, it's got to be a lot more complicated. You can't get to a lot more complicated from a foundation of a normal 18 year old military recruit ... so that's the ultimate in paranoid conspiracy theory. It's a matter of putting windows in the program ... the first window that comes open is the SRA -- the window behind that is the military mind control. Alternatively the whole SRA thing itself could be deliberate disinformation that has been implanted in the culture. Broaden the question a little bit. What's my political recommendation on what should be the legal liability of government induced Manchurian Candidates for criminal acts that they have perpetrated? I would say that we should have a double amnesty program. And this is for strategic purposes. Politics is the art of the impossible. Some people could say this is unethical and this is caving in and playing the game. I think we have to have a double amnesty program for any criminal acts conducted by government induced Manchurian Candidates in the course of the government operations-and also amnesty for their handlers. Because if we don't have that, then the drive to keep it all covered up is too great. My basic argument is that the Intelligence Community has been sold a bogus bill of goods by these guys, like G.H. Estabrooks and all his heirs down the line. It is overkill, it is unnecessary, it's ridiculous ... you can just drop it ... and there will be no operational loss. Do I know that for a fact? I haven't got the faintest idea. But that's what I propose to them-they could do their own analysis. If we are going to stop it, and let it come out to the public, that will never happen if the individual handlers and operators in the Intelligence Community are going to be nailed in public and personally responsible. So there has to be a double amnesty program ... but then there has to be financial compensation for the victims who get identified. That is less likely to happen if the compensation comes out of the Intelligence budget- therefore, it ought to come out of general Federal funds-not to reduce Intelligence funding-otherwise you have set up systemic disincentive for this stuff to ever be declassified. However, that should not cover drug, pimping, and other operations run on the side by handlers doing Manchurian Candidates.

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A. This is an extremely tricky question that you are asking. Why does a government created multiple get off the hook and a domestic created multiple doesn't? The domestic created multiple is not going to be happy. I will give the reason I don't let the domestic created multiple off the hook-really quickly-it is that it destroys the foundation of recovery. The foundation of recovery is "you are not insane, you're not out of control, it's something you created inside yourself to survive, you can un-learn it, and be well." And part of healing is being responsible for what you do now. If we don't do that, the whole unit gets behaviourally out of control. So, like it or not, we hold people responsible for the behaviour of their alters, and I don't view DID as grounds for an insanity defense in and of itself. So then you are going to say, well why doesn't that then apply to these government created people? Well, I just think it is different. When you've been deliberately, systematically experimented on by a government, you deserve a bit of a break for actions which you have committed as part of your government assignment ... in other words, if you are a Manchurian Candidate and you are just out in the world and you go out and rape somebody, good, you do the crime, you do the time, that's my attitude. I am only talking about crimes that they have committed, specifically on assignment for the military Intelligence Agencies. They are basically soldiers at war.

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A. Where does Charter Hospital fit in? I would like to know if Charter fits in anywhere. One thing that I would be willing to do, would be to run a classified unit for treatment of these individuals. I would be very happy to do that and to negotiate a Management Services Contract with the Federal government to do that- R.

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A. Does any of my work support Cory Hammond's talk at the Regional Eastern Conference in 1992 for which he has been attacked and ridiculed about Dr. Green and all that? Not directly. Indirectly, and when you tie into the Paperclip conspiracy ... I am getting the documentation much closer to conclusion, that, if not Dr. Green, some psychological warfare experts must have been brought over from Nazi Germany. So that part of it is no longer kooky. I think that Cory Hammond made a strategic error by going too far out beyond his documentation too fast, and leaving himself exposed to ridicule. Although I am thankful to him that he did that because then I learned alternative strategies.

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A. The whole way that the tobacco industry is set up ... regulated, not regulated, funded, lobbied, and the disinformation campaign that it is run by the tobacco companies-is basically effective-they are still being sold and they are still making a profit off of killing people. So you could say that's like a lung control experimentation program that has been run by the tobacco companies and everybody is just kind of, in effect, letting it go by. Except actually the medical profession and the public has gotten on tobacco way more than they have ever gotten on mind control ... but we will change that with the book and the movie. (Laughter and much applause)

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